Notices tagged with cc, page 55
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dougsportazine (dougsportazine)'s status on Monday, 27-Aug-2012 20:07:51 EDT dougsportazine
oops, forgot I was logged in to identi.ca and not status.net. oh well. -
dougsportazine (dougsportazine)'s status on Monday, 27-Aug-2012 20:07:27 EDT dougsportazine
I can't often say this, but the way the US handles DRM circumvention seems way better than the way Canada handles it. -
laurelrusswurm (laurelrusswurm)'s status on Monday, 27-Aug-2012 20:07:16 EDT laurelrusswurm
@zotz ND and NC are PART of the Creative Commons suite *now* ... why don't those of you who want to change make your own fork. -
zotz (zotz)'s status on Monday, 27-Aug-2012 20:02:22 EDT zotz
or at a *minimum* to create a FreeCC brand that the Freedom folks can promote without confusion. been asked for for years. -
DJ Dougernaut (douglasawh)'s status on Monday, 27-Aug-2012 20:01:05 EDT DJ Dougernaut
@kuro what on earth are you talking about? @professorkliq @davidrovics and others don't need lawyers to deal with CC. That's the whole point of CC. -
laurelrusswurm (laurelrusswurm)'s status on Monday, 27-Aug-2012 20:00:22 EDT laurelrusswurm
@zotz They are already included in the !cc brand. You folks are advocating removing them. -
zotz (zotz)'s status on Monday, 27-Aug-2012 19:58:36 EDT zotz
and this is a big problem -
DJ Dougernaut (douglasawh)'s status on Monday, 27-Aug-2012 19:54:54 EDT DJ Dougernaut
I can't cover this in 280 char, but suffice it to say that ~300 pages of Title 17 (or applicable federal copyright law), international treaties and state-to-state contract law confuse CC more than having an extra couple of licenses does. -
laurelrusswurm (laurelrusswurm)'s status on Monday, 27-Aug-2012 19:51:18 EDT laurelrusswurm
@zotz I disagree, it is exactly the right question until there is *much* more awareness in the rest of the world. -
arnebab (arnebab)'s status on Monday, 27-Aug-2012 19:45:34 EDT arnebab
@zotz oh damn, am I really arguing *for* NC? … guess so. To change society, you must remember those who start with the first steps. -
arnebab (arnebab)'s status on Monday, 27-Aug-2012 19:43:54 EDT arnebab
@zotz you can’t mix licenses with *different* terms at all, except if one is a real subset of the other — which is pretty clear with #cc. -
zotz (zotz)'s status on Monday, 27-Aug-2012 19:42:39 EDT zotz
I think mixing the Free and non-Free under one banner harms CC and betrays the idea of a creative *commons* -
zotz (zotz)'s status on Monday, 27-Aug-2012 19:41:51 EDT zotz
as we see with the GPL vs BSD, MIT, Apache, it is hard enough to mix the copyleft and permissive Free. -
zotz (zotz)'s status on Monday, 27-Aug-2012 19:41:07 EDT zotz
and there are complaints that that is insulting. you cant comfortably mix the Free and the non-Free. -
arnebab (arnebab)'s status on Monday, 27-Aug-2012 19:35:22 EDT arnebab
@laurelrusswurm ouch :( — and yes, I would prefer having everything as GPL today, but reality is slow. -
arnebab (arnebab)'s status on Monday, 27-Aug-2012 19:34:29 EDT arnebab
@zotz Do you really lose time? For me it’s very nice to see a CC footer: I see directly which rights I have. Much better than before… -
zotz (zotz)'s status on Monday, 27-Aug-2012 19:33:12 EDT zotz
we do that now in countries where slavery is illegal. shall we go back and start respecting peoples freedom to become slaves and to own them -
zotz (zotz)'s status on Monday, 27-Aug-2012 19:32:07 EDT zotz
the other side was quite happy to force copyright on all works, marked or not. -
zotz (zotz)'s status on Monday, 27-Aug-2012 19:26:51 EDT zotz
i say the fracture does no harm as the Free and the non-Free CC licenses are not a part of the same commons in the first place. -
zotz (zotz)'s status on Monday, 27-Aug-2012 19:26:14 EDT zotz
and? they are happy to deny the world their rightful Freedom. plus, there are other non-Free licenses and the fracture does no harm.