Notices tagged with cc, page 53
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@laurelrusswurm a) I just want to rename them b) even if I did want to kill them, sometimes product line evolution req killing trailing edge
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I was mostly responding to the "perfection" comment. I'm not sure some sort of "headstart" provision (1-5 years or something) wouldn't be good, but I mostly don't disagree with you on the entirely theoretical point of abolition
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@laurelrusswurm …many fundamentals of the info policy debate need to be flipped, through education/argument/research&such ur1.ca/955ww
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@laurelrusswurm I agree that info/education 1st, and that is mostly independent of licenses, which are very poor educational vehicles...
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@douglasawh I also understand his reasoning on this one and he is WRONG. But he may not be on the INTERNET. :-)
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@mlinksva But removing NC/ND would be like shooting !cc in the foot.
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@mlinksva Just because perfection is impossible is no reason not to strive for it. Sure, improve workarounds, but info/education s/b 1st
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@douglasawh they are in reverse. what we want is progress ;-)
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@rms has narrow conceptions about a few things as far as I'm concerned, but I also understand his reasoning
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@laurelrusswurm nothing will produce perfect freedom, but abolition would be a huge improvement AND the current workarounds can be improved.
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@zotz freelcommons anyone? :-)
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@douglasawh …2 copyleft is extremely weak protection. effective pro-sharing/disclosure/auditing regulation orthogonal to copyright.
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@arnebab must not forget the end goal either, and not start a negotiation asking for less than what you want
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♻ @zotz: I think mixing the Free and non-Free under one banner harms CC and betrays the idea of a creative *commons*
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@douglasawh if he said that, he has too narrow a conception of "protect", in two ways. 1 abolition would be a huge blow to the competition…
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@arnebab nobody's arguing they should retroactively cease to exist. they just don't belong in a commons
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the people doing treaties are too busy going the wrong direction. Once we get them in neutral we can try going in reverse, but we're probably 20 years from that. Not to clump everybody together, but my parents generation needs to start dying off for progress.
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our interview with @methoddan was similarly long, but we lost some of the "tape" so not as long! http://www.musicmanumit.com/2010/08/music-manumit-podcast-down-rathole.html
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Whichever comes first, but it would be good to change them just from the pov of inadvertent lock down of works from creators ignorant of ©
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I honestly don't know when his last release was and if it was post-CC. Tom and I interviewed him long ago...before Tom and I had the passing down for interviews...so it is super-long: http://www.musicmanumit.com/2010/08/music-manumit-podcast-bono-fied-100821.html
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