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1. laurelrusswurm (laurelrusswurm)'s status on Monday, 27-Aug-2012 16:24:07 EDT laurelrusswurm

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   @greg @dpic @robmyers @mlinksva @lxoliva !CC is a good workaround, but nothing less than !copyright abolition will produce perfect freedom.
   • vlax (vlax)'s status on Monday, 27-Aug-2012 16:52:25 EDT vlax

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     • laurelrusswurm
     @laurelrusswurm +1k
   • dougsportazine (dougsportazine)'s status on Monday, 27-Aug-2012 20:09:14 EDT dougsportazine

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     • laurelrusswurm
     as @rms has said, copyright abolition does nothing to protect software freedom.
   • mlinksva (mlinksva)'s status on Monday, 27-Aug-2012 21:12:14 EDT mlinksva

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     @douglasawh if he said that, he has too narrow a conception of "protect", in two ways. 1 abolition would be a huge blow to the competition…
   • mlinksva (mlinksva)'s status on Monday, 27-Aug-2012 21:13:59 EDT mlinksva

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     • DJ Dougernaut
     @douglasawh …2 copyleft is extremely weak protection. effective pro-sharing/disclosure/auditing regulation orthogonal to copyright.
   • mlinksva (mlinksva)'s status on Monday, 27-Aug-2012 21:14:49 EDT mlinksva

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     • laurelrusswurm
     @laurelrusswurm nothing will produce perfect freedom, but abolition would be a huge improvement AND the current workarounds can be improved.
   • DJ Dougernaut (douglasawh)'s status on Monday, 27-Aug-2012 21:16:56 EDT DJ Dougernaut

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     • mlinksva
     @rms has narrow conceptions about a few things as far as I'm concerned, but I also understand his reasoning
   • laurelrusswurm (laurelrusswurm)'s status on Monday, 27-Aug-2012 21:28:28 EDT laurelrusswurm

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     • mlinksva
     @mlinksva Just because perfection is impossible is no reason not to strive for it. Sure, improve workarounds, but info/education s/b 1st
   • laurelrusswurm (laurelrusswurm)'s status on Monday, 27-Aug-2012 21:30:34 EDT laurelrusswurm

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     • mlinksva
     @mlinksva But removing NC/ND would be like shooting !cc in the foot.
   • mlinksva (mlinksva)'s status on Monday, 27-Aug-2012 21:30:39 EDT mlinksva

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     • DJ Dougernaut
     @douglasawh I also understand his reasoning on this one and he is WRONG. But he may not be on the INTERNET. :-)
   • mlinksva (mlinksva)'s status on Monday, 27-Aug-2012 21:31:47 EDT mlinksva

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     • laurelrusswurm
     @laurelrusswurm I agree that info/education 1st, and that is mostly independent of licenses, which are very poor educational vehicles...
   • mlinksva (mlinksva)'s status on Monday, 27-Aug-2012 21:34:15 EDT mlinksva

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     • laurelrusswurm
     @laurelrusswurm …many fundamentals of the info policy debate need to be flipped, through education/argument/research&such ur1.ca/955ww
   • DJ Dougernaut (douglasawh)'s status on Monday, 27-Aug-2012 21:36:23 EDT DJ Dougernaut

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     • mlinksva
     I was mostly responding to the "perfection" comment. I'm not sure some sort of "headstart" provision (1-5 years or something) wouldn't be good, but I mostly don't disagree with you on the entirely theoretical point of abolition
   • mlinksva (mlinksva)'s status on Monday, 27-Aug-2012 21:38:22 EDT mlinksva

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     • laurelrusswurm
     @laurelrusswurm a) I just want to rename them b) even if I did want to kill them, sometimes product line evolution req killing trailing edge