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@pennyfortheguy The thing with indoctrination, this gets into heavy psych that even 1000 characters can't explain, but in basic very general terms, no one can make you believe something that at least SOME part of you doesn't want to believe outside of physical negative reinforcement therapy, which frankly, is also known as something else. That something else is tor…
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Democracy is always great for people until they realize other people's opinions usually don't reflect their own.
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@pennyfortheguy In what way? Both the majority vote and the electoral vote gave Trump the presidency. He won this by a democratic vote. You might not like that this is the choice that the majority made, but it is, nonetheless, the choice they made.
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@maiyannah @pennyfortheguy I guess he was the change candidate, and Americans voted for change. But if Clinton had won it still would have been a bad result. Ultimately, figureheads and gurus can't save the US from oligopoly, only the people can do that.
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@bob @pennyfortheguy There were more than those two choices, but the American public decided against adopting others. The thing about the dominance of the two party system is this is something that is empowered by the people. They are directly responsible for it.
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@pennyfortheguy @bob People unaware of our history might not realize it, but Canada also had a two-party system for a long long time. The difference was, when people became dissatisfied with the two major parties, they voted for a third party. America has missed several opprotunities to do so, to the point its become quite obvious they have no interest in doing so.
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@pennyfortheguy @bob Now we basically have three major parties and a couple minor parties with considerable clout. Liberal Party, Conservative Party, New Democratic Party, and then the Green Party and Bloc Quebecois.
(The Pirate Party's star's been on the rise in some provinces, but they haven't made any breakthroughs nationally yet.)
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@inmysocks We have first past the post which can be deeply problematic but it hasn't seemed as big an issue here as in the states.
Really the problem in the states come down to the fact that people complain about the power of the main two parties but do nothing about it. Slacktivism fixes nothing. They have to actually act.
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@inmysocks The power of any political entity lies in the hand of those whom vote for it. If people don't vote for it, it loses its power.
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@pennyfortheguy @inmysocks The root problem is that people in America vote to "win" in the election. They don't care about the principles of that side, they just want to be seen as on the "winning side". Resolving that attitude is complex since it is very cultural.
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@pennyfortheguy Look at how many Hillary supporters are upset not at opposing values Trump represents, but instead are upset simply that Trump won, or that [label they apply to Trump followers] won. The Other Side won. The Enemy. That's what they focus on, what they care about. If you genuinely want to fix your country, that's what you have to attack - that pe…
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@pennyfortheguy Money, power, fame, social status, the "thrill" of winning, feelings of importance, feelings of inadequecy, learned helplessness, these are all factors.
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