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1. maiyannah (maiyannah)'s status on Sunday, 25-Dec-2016 14:28:26 EST maiyannah

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   I think most software companies would find if they didn't have the Digital Restrictions Management and respected the Four Freedoms they might not make their "suggested retail price" with every sale but most of the people whom otherwise freeload with their software would be happy to give you some of their money. I mean, as a comparative example, I buy music from many…
2. maiyannah (maiyannah)'s status on Sunday, 25-Dec-2016 14:25:08 EST maiyannah

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   @cow2001 @gameragodzilla @bob Incidentally electronics diagramming software is something where the proprietary versions just blow anything FOSS have out of the water so completely it probably reaches orbit.
3. maiyannah (maiyannah)'s status on Sunday, 25-Dec-2016 14:24:05 EST maiyannah

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   Hey @rw what was the pixel art software you use named again
4. maiyannah (maiyannah)'s status on Sunday, 25-Dec-2016 14:21:59 EST maiyannah

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   @gameragodzilla @bob er, their own Linux distro
   
   I blame the pain meds.
5. maiyannah (maiyannah)'s status on Sunday, 25-Dec-2016 14:20:34 EST maiyannah

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   @bob @gameragodzilla Yeah I'm constantly surprised how many people don't realize Android is just Google's own Android distro.  (Well, its "separate" from Google, but not really.)
6. maiyannah (maiyannah)'s status on Sunday, 25-Dec-2016 14:17:47 EST maiyannah

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   @gameragodzilla @bob Look up LibreOffice if you do, it's the more modern fork/progression/whatever.
7. maiyannah (maiyannah)'s status on Sunday, 25-Dec-2016 14:16:54 EST maiyannah

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   @bob @gameragodzilla I find if you put good-quality free software in front of people, and allow them to explore it themselves, with guidance as they need, they'll convert themselves really.  That's my experience anyways.  The "good quality" part is important though.  It's not "good quality" just because it's free software, and there is a lot of free software I wou…
8. maiyannah (maiyannah)'s status on Sunday, 25-Dec-2016 14:12:50 EST maiyannah

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   @gameragodzilla @bob Digital Restrictions Management sure is great. I use what's convenient for me at the time, but I find open, free software usually more convenient.  We should expect others to do the same - they'll do what's easiest for them.  So to promote free software, we should make it as easy as possible for people to use. That software has to be convenie…
9. maiyannah (maiyannah)'s status on Sunday, 25-Dec-2016 14:08:45 EST maiyannah

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   @gameragodzilla @bob In this case I showed the CFO through OpenOffice and he could see it was just as easy to use and he could use it just fine himself, and it was *free*, so it was a way to look good to the board of directors for him.  Big "cost savings" and all that.
   
   Humans will be humans.
10. maiyannah (maiyannah)'s status on Sunday, 25-Dec-2016 14:06:53 EST maiyannah

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    @gameragodzilla @bob To this day, I am pretty sure that retailer still uses OpenOffice.
11. maiyannah (maiyannah)'s status on Sunday, 25-Dec-2016 14:06:05 EST maiyannah

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    @gameragodzilla @bob Yeah, hi.
12. maiyannah (maiyannah)'s status on Sunday, 25-Dec-2016 14:05:50 EST maiyannah

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    @gameragodzilla @bob  So how do you get them to switch to free software then? Well, that's kind of simple really.  You find an alternative that does the same things (at the time this was OpenOffice, it's since been split off into LibreOffice), but is *free*, as in beer.  It suddenly became very easy to get the company to change over to using OpenOffice when I ex…
13. maiyannah (maiyannah)'s status on Sunday, 25-Dec-2016 14:03:32 EST maiyannah

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    @bob @gameragodzilla It also helps to speak someone's language.  Allow to expand with an example, to illustrate what I mean by that. When I used to work for one retailer, they used to use the MS Office suite for stuff.  I'm not going to deny it's nice.  It is, and I still occasionally use it for documents I get sent, or when LibreOffice decides to screw the pooch…
14. maiyannah (maiyannah)'s status on Sunday, 25-Dec-2016 14:00:58 EST maiyannah

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    @gameragodzilla @bob Sad but very true.  The human element.  We so often seek shortcuts, and easy exits.
15. maiyannah (maiyannah)'s status on Sunday, 25-Dec-2016 13:58:32 EST maiyannah

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    @gameragodzilla @bob I get very frustrated by the people who join those kinds of movement just for social credit because, as we've seen, they almost always do a lot of damage that the people who actually care about those causes are left with trying to repair.
16. maiyannah (maiyannah)'s status on Sunday, 25-Dec-2016 13:53:25 EST maiyannah

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    Grandmother is wise enough to be careful about security and the way in which she deals with things, she just lacks the technical knowledge.  She grew up in a time not everyone had electricity, let alone computers.  She's been more than happy to let me help her though, and its been a nice way to bond occasionally, which is nice, so there's that.
17. maiyannah (maiyannah)'s status on Sunday, 25-Dec-2016 13:51:31 EST maiyannah

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    @gameragodzilla @bob Ideologues don't care about converting the unfaithful, in the end, they care about posturing to their social groups. I'll stop myself a bit here because I'm not really in disagreement with Bob's own reasons for being involved in the movement and I feel a bit like I'm preaching to the choir, but I think he's probably seen the kinds of FOSS "advoc…
18. maiyannah (maiyannah)'s status on Sunday, 25-Dec-2016 13:48:13 EST maiyannah

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    @bob I do not think any less of people that use proprietary software.  Most of them do not realize the choice they have available, or are made to believe by corporate propoganda that Linux is some hard, unfathomable thing that requires deep technical knowledge and CLIs.  This is a false belief, and most people are more than happy to use free software alternatives t…
19. maiyannah (maiyannah)'s status on Sunday, 25-Dec-2016 13:46:02 EST maiyannah

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    @bob There are a LOT of people who talk down to people who use proprietary software.  Many people do not have a choice in this, but people do not care.  For instance, they do not control the devices their employers provide them with, or the workstations at their place of employment.  Yet in spite of this, it is expected that they will somehow rise up against these…
20. maiyannah (maiyannah)'s status on Sunday, 25-Dec-2016 13:43:10 EST maiyannah

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    @gameragodzilla A gift!  Can't you see? :^)

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