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vinc17 (vinc17)'s status on Tuesday, 18-Jun-2013 09:25:23 EDT 
vinc17
Fed up with !Debian rules. Now that's strace/experimental that's broken and developers want to hide that: http://bugs.debian.org/702309#20 -
vinc17 (vinc17)'s status on Tuesday, 18-Jun-2013 09:28:15 EDT
vinc17
and I installed the experimental version of strace just because reportbug suggested to install it. -
panko (panko)'s status on Tuesday, 18-Jun-2013 11:36:28 EDT 
panko
@vinc17 A package from experimental branch is broken!? let's prepare for the end of the world as we know it... -
lhofm (lhofm)'s status on Tuesday, 18-Jun-2013 14:30:04 EDT 
lhofm
@vinc17 "developers want to hide that". Yes, that's certainly the reason why a Debian developer reported the bug in the first place. -
vinc17 (vinc17)'s status on Tuesday, 18-Jun-2013 15:47:57 EDT
vinc17
But the bug is not visible by apt-listbugs! Did all of you read what I've said??? -
pehjota (pehjota)'s status on Tuesday, 18-Jun-2013 16:46:25 EDT 
pehjota
@vinc17 "Developers want to hide that" is a serious and baseless accusation. See commitment 3: http://www.debian.org/social_contract -
pehjota (pehjota)'s status on Tuesday, 18-Jun-2013 16:49:42 EDT
pehjota
@vinc17 There's no conspiracy to hide bug reports in the BTS from users of apt-listbugs. After all, you FOUND the bug report. -
vinc17 (vinc17)'s status on Tuesday, 18-Jun-2013 18:25:17 EDT
vinc17
No, I didn't *before* being affected by the bug. -
vinc17 (vinc17)'s status on Tuesday, 18-Jun-2013 20:52:11 EDT
vinc17
And if !Debian people knew how to write documentation, there would be fewer problems. -
dper (dper)'s status on Tuesday, 18-Jun-2013 22:15:38 EDT 
dper
@vinc17 Who told you to? When last checked, you chose to use it... (I mean, unless your boss is making you, which would be different.) -
vinc17 (vinc17)'s status on Tuesday, 18-Jun-2013 22:41:00 EDT
vinc17
Several people in mailing-lists, Debian developers (in bug reports), and this is also highly suggested by reportbug. -
dper (dper)'s status on Wednesday, 19-Jun-2013 05:25:11 EDT
dper
@vinc17 I can see why you'd be upset at a bug. I don't like bugs, either. However, "experimental" does in fact mean "experimental". -
jankusanagi (jankusanagi)'s status on Wednesday, 19-Jun-2013 06:13:14 EDT 
jankusanagi
@vinc17 why don't _you_ contribute to that documentation? Wow, demanding things for free is soooo easy... -
vinc17 (vinc17)'s status on Wednesday, 19-Jun-2013 06:25:05 EDT
vinc17
Note that my complaint is not about the bug itself, but on how it is handled: the fact that apt-listbugs can't do its job in the usual way. -
vinc17 (vinc17)'s status on Wednesday, 19-Jun-2013 06:28:03 EDT
vinc17
It's a pity that for experimental (only) there's no way to signal that some !Debian package is completely broken. -
vinc17 (vinc17)'s status on Wednesday, 19-Jun-2013 06:32:49 EDT
vinc17
I can't contribute if I don't know the behavior in the first place. Now I've reported a bug about severities: http://bugs.debian.org/712736 -
Stefano Zacchiroli (zack)'s status on Wednesday, 19-Jun-2013 07:36:36 EDT 
Stefano Zacchiroli
#YAWN http://ur1.ca/eddos -
dper (dper)'s status on Wednesday, 19-Jun-2013 07:53:36 EDT
dper
@vinc17 You've made two complaints. The first is about the way problems in Experimental are handled. OK, maybe that is valid...
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