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1. vinc17 (vinc17)'s status on Monday, 17-Jun-2013 09:18:21 EDT vinc17

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   !Debian invents software that is broken by design! http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=702225
   • jankusanagi (jankusanagi)'s status on Monday, 17-Jun-2013 09:24:30 EDT jankusanagi

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     • vinc17
     @vinc17 "invents"? It's not even their software. Please, don't spread FUD.
   • usrshare (usrshare)'s status on Monday, 17-Jun-2013 09:26:04 EDT usrshare

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     • vinc17
     Xalan is an Apache Software Foundation program. Debian devs didn't create it, they only packaged the program.
   • usrshare (usrshare)'s status on Monday, 17-Jun-2013 09:27:00 EDT usrshare

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     • vinc17
     For comparison, that's like blaming Microsoft for every unstable program on Windows Store or Valve for every bad game on Steam.
   • vinc17 (vinc17)'s status on Monday, 17-Jun-2013 09:30:43 EDT vinc17

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     The problem seems to be !Debian specific.
   • vinc17 (vinc17)'s status on Monday, 17-Jun-2013 09:42:25 EDT vinc17

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     And that's also !Debian developers who decided that this wasn't a bug, while obviously it doesn't work.
   • Joshua Judson Rosen (rozzin)'s status on Monday, 17-Jun-2013 10:19:02 EDT Joshua Judson Rosen

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     @vinc17, it's not clear from your report whether you have the DTD installed locally; Bill seems to think that you don't.
   • losinggeneration (losinggeneration)'s status on Monday, 17-Jun-2013 10:29:11 EDT losinggeneration

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     • vinc17
     @vinc17 You're wrong about xsltproc. It reports: warning: failed to load external entity "http://ur1.ca/8x27"
   • vinc17 (vinc17)'s status on Monday, 17-Jun-2013 10:33:36 EDT vinc17

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     • Joshua Judson Rosen
     The DTD is installed locally (not clear from my bug report, but you can deduce it from the fact that xsltproc is fine).
   • losinggeneration (losinggeneration)'s status on Monday, 17-Jun-2013 10:40:31 EDT losinggeneration

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     • vinc17
     @vinc17 You're making an assumption there. From your report, you make it sound like xsltproc fetches from the network fine. #Badbugreporting
   • Stefano Zacchiroli (zack)'s status on Monday, 17-Jun-2013 10:56:26 EDT Stefano Zacchiroli

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     • vinc17
     @vinc17: what's good in your dents is that they are always #constructive and full of hope in a brighter technical future
   • Joshua Judson Rosen (rozzin)'s status on Monday, 17-Jun-2013 11:17:18 EDT Joshua Judson Rosen

     • vinc17
     @vinc17, do you have the DTD installed "in your system directory" (whatever that means), or just in the catalog? Apparently those are different things?
   • vinc17 (vinc17)'s status on Monday, 17-Jun-2013 11:48:26 EDT vinc17

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     • Joshua Judson Rosen
     Just the catalog. But what is the system directory? Where is the documentation? A package without documentation is useless!
   • Joshua Judson Rosen (rozzin)'s status on Monday, 17-Jun-2013 12:03:18 EDT Joshua Judson Rosen

     • vinc17
     @vinc17, I have no idea--please file these clarifications in the bug-report, not just in discussion in some random place on the Internet? :)
   • losinggeneration (losinggeneration)'s status on Monday, 17-Jun-2013 12:46:42 EDT losinggeneration

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     • Joshua Judson Rosen
     @rozzin Because of these discussions, some clarifications have already been made.