@guizzy I never owned either one and never felt any desire to do so. My mom and one of my sons got me an off-brand MP3 player for Fathers Day one year (pre-filled with music, too), and I've periodically bought one of the Sansa devices (but they really stink unless you get a model that is supported by Rockbox).

What was the attraction of the name brand players, besides "look, I'm popular"?