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1. Thunder Beaver (thndrbvr)'s status on Tuesday, 05-May-2020 23:00:47 EDT Thunder Beaver

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   What are some good resources for learning PHP? And Javascript?
   Which should be learned first? Assuming some knowledge of HTML & CSS already.
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   • GeniusMusing (geniusmusing)'s status on Wednesday, 06-May-2020 12:26:50 EDT GeniusMusing

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     @thndrbvr Here are a few, most have a free option. Do you want to learn front or back end? PHP is both and javascript is mostly front end as it runs in the browser. Collection of Free Programming and Technology Related Bookshttps://www.devcurry.com/2010/06/collection-of-free-programming-and.html [Free Programming Ebooks O'Reilly Media](http://status.hackerposse.com/url/20948) […
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   • Douglas A. Whitfield (musicman)'s status on Wednesday, 06-May-2020 13:12:08 EDT Douglas A. Whitfield

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     • Thunder Beaver
     it depends on what you will be doing whether you need js or php first, but I would say js is more places. Learning js will, with minimal effort, also get you coffeescript and typescript.
     
     I disagree that js is just front end: https://stackoverflow.com/questions/459238/when-and-how-do-you-use-server-side-javascript
   • LinuxWalt (@lnxw48a1) {3EB165E0-5BB1-45D2-9E7D-93B31821F864} (lnxw48a1)'s status on Wednesday, 06-May-2020 13:46:39 EDT LinuxWalt (@lnxw48a1) {3EB165E0-5BB1-45D2-9E7D-93B31821F864}

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     @musicman @geniusmusing That’s mostly #Node.js, which is a somewhat outdated fork of Chrome’s V8 engine. Considering that the browser is the least secure part of modern computers, and the #JavaScript engine is a key part of that insecurity, it is up to each person to decide whether to accept the risk. Personally, I’m willing to accept Node, but only in a completely sepa…
   • Douglas A. Whitfield (musicman)'s status on Wednesday, 06-May-2020 14:18:55 EDT Douglas A. Whitfield

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     • LinuxWalt (@lnxw48a1) {3EB165E0-5BB1-45D2-9E7D-93B31821F864}
     npm has certainly had its problems in the past, but OpenJS is now part of the Linux Foundation. I think they know what they are doing: https://openjsf.org/
   • LinuxWalt (@lnxw48a1) {3EB165E0-5BB1-45D2-9E7D-93B31821F864} (lnxw48a1)'s status on Wednesday, 06-May-2020 22:07:13 EDT LinuxWalt (@lnxw48a1) {3EB165E0-5BB1-45D2-9E7D-93B31821F864}

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     • Douglas A. Whitfield
     Thanks for the link. I was completely unaware of OpenJS.