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Similarly and on the other side of things, I'll never cease to be kind of amazed by people who are friendly to people with mental disorders up to the point where they actually have that impairment. These people that pay lip service to having mental disorders make it all the more difficult for people who actually have them, to develop support networks, because people expect they don't have to really have to "see" it.
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@infogab They're not wrong in saying "you're not dealing with it", in that, if you were dealing with it, it wouldn't be mental illness, because it wouldn't be presenting that impediment.
I read "destigmatizing mental illness" as someone saying "I don't really have any appreciable mental illness but I want to say that I do to get social credit and don't want people calling me out on that.
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@infogab I used to be a forensic psychologist myself (for the local police service at the time). (Master of Science with a major in Psych FWIW) It's why I get as bothered by those that really don't have a significant mental illness bending the definition in a way to try to gain social credit, because I've seen firsthand as basically the last stop on the line peop…
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@infogab Not to mention the very personal aspect of dealing with mental disorders myself, but I try not to get on about them for kind of this reason, really. Try and fail sometimes, but c'est la vie.
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@infogab Sure, many disorders are on a spectrum anyways, such as Autism now under the DSM, but at the same time, there are a great many people who claim self-diagnosed disorders whom have never actually been treated for them, and they tend to be very obviously not affected by the disorder they claim (though some may have other disorders such as NPD as I've already mentioned)
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@infogab If anything I would encourage anyone unsure about their feelings and whether they present a legitimate disorder to go seek a professional because that is someone that has the knowledge to say, and irrespective of whether we would consider it a "proper disorder" that person can help you through whatever difficulty it is you may be having - for instance, helpi…
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@infogab Oh god, I had the rant about homeless people yesterday, yeah. It's a touchy subject for me, because *I* have been homeless and need of attention myself, when I was much younger. Long story short, my coming out to my parents as homosexual went over about as well as eastern European peace treaties, and they turfed me out onto the street, so that point in m…
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@infogab The individuals I'm speaking to tend to actually be actively resistant to seeking professional help because they build identities around having that particular disorder, which they use to accumulate social capital, so they would be at direct risk of losing social credit if they sought professional assistance and had that identity invalidated by the actual di…
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@infogab There's a few distinct flavours of this and modern psych is just starting to come to proper grips with it, so I reserve the right to be wrong about saying this, but in my experience a lot of people seem to have a sort of confused hypochrondria about mental illness. They become so convinced they have one disorder, and they require it for their social capita…
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@infogab Very much so. It presents impairment after all. But it can be very complicated to try to treat when people refuse to seek treatment. Many of them even espouse elaborate constructions of pseudoscience to try to assert that the clinical psychology is wrong about them, which in turn reinforces the existing problem of self-misdiagnosis, because other peopl…
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@infogab With police funding here in Canada being cut, I'll give you a few guesses what kinds of programs are often first on the chopping block. The budget of my old service is literally half what it used to be, and I lament the many people that probably aren't served as a result. I think there's some give and take to be had here. Managing malingerers is a trick…
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@infogab You have to draw a line somewheres, lest you enable their mental disorder.
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