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I think we can greatly reduce illegal immigration by prosecuting those who hire them, including hiring for the day labor 'dig up the weeds in my backyard' type jobs and force those employers to pay back wages. If job opportunities aren't there, they'll leave.
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@cphuntington97 Perhaps, but we're already not producing as many jobs as we do graduates for about 20 years.
I do want citizenship to be much faster to obtain. (A member of extended family spent several years in the process before obtaining US citizenship.)
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@vegos No, immigrants to the US come mostly for jobs. But because they are here illegally, they are easier to exploit. Reducing illegal immigration and related labor exploitation allows us to take away the fear of deportation that is used to prevent them from asserting any rights, which improves their lives and ours. (We can also insure they learn English, so they aren't cut off from the general population.)
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Reduce illegal, increase legal, if it wasn't clear above.
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@lnxw48 @vegos most US citizens are immigrants or descended from immigrants. Most land was obtained illegally from the natives, either straightforwardly by genocide or by other systematic methods including forcing people to speak a particular language and forget their own culture. It is of course true that capitalists use nationality, sex and race as leverage within the overall class war.
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@cphuntington97 @vegos Learn and use whatever OTHER languages you choose, but you're just an easy victim if you can't speak/understand the host country's main language.
You'd be surprised how many scammers and robbers prey on immigrants who can't easily communicate with law enforcement. Learning the local language is always going to be a critical part of integrating immigrants into any country's population.
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@vegos @cphuntington97 Yes, I loved it when we used to have extended family get-togethers with foods from various ancestral traditions represented.
lnxw48 (Linux Walt)
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