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lxoliva (lxoliva)'s status on Sunday, 30-Sep-2012 11:47:03 EDT 
lxoliva
@zotz I didn't ask whether you agree with his stance, but on what his stance is. knowing the latter is 1st step in avoiding strawmen -
lxoliva (lxoliva)'s status on Sunday, 30-Sep-2012 11:46:01 EDT
lxoliva
@zotz tjat -
lxoliva (lxoliva)'s status on Sunday, 30-Sep-2012 11:29:21 EDT
lxoliva
@zotz good. do you agree that his stance is that educational works are meant to be used for education, but so can other kinds of works? -
lxoliva (lxoliva)'s status on Saturday, 29-Sep-2012 16:15:04 EDT
lxoliva
@zotz done. I'm growing convinced the miscommunication has to do with the different definition of “educational works” -
lxoliva (lxoliva)'s status on Friday, 28-Sep-2012 02:07:43 EDT
lxoliva
@zotz yup. it's not clear who's making that mistake, tho :-) “unfit for” doesn't follow from his article, methinks -
lxoliva (lxoliva)'s status on Friday, 28-Sep-2012 02:02:51 EDT
lxoliva
@zotz which is exactly what I tried to explain the other day ;-) -
lxoliva (lxoliva)'s status on Thursday, 27-Sep-2012 13:01:35 EDT
lxoliva
@zotz from this conversation, I guess the difference is in the meaning of educational work: term overload => misunderstanding => strawman -
lxoliva (lxoliva)'s status on Thursday, 27-Sep-2012 13:01:00 EDT
lxoliva
@zotz so your pointing out an apparent inconsistency in it indicates to me some underlying mismatch that ends up in a strawman -
lxoliva (lxoliva)'s status on Thursday, 27-Sep-2012 12:57:18 EDT
lxoliva
@zotz which is not to say that they shouldn't be Free; that's where you and I diverge from @rms -
lxoliva (lxoliva)'s status on Thursday, 27-Sep-2012 12:52:31 EDT
lxoliva
@zotz that's what makes the difference, I guess. IIUC @rms regards works of opinion or for entertainment as different classes -
lxoliva (lxoliva)'s status on Wednesday, 26-Sep-2012 15:20:59 EDT
lxoliva
@mlinksva no apology needed. now, I don't agree that's even implied. I point out strawman even when applied to opponents, as in this case -
lxoliva (lxoliva)'s status on Wednesday, 26-Sep-2012 15:05:32 EDT
lxoliva
@zotz you're trying to convince the wrong person; your position being right doesn't turn your strawman into his position -
lxoliva (lxoliva)'s status on Tuesday, 25-Sep-2012 20:56:26 EDT
lxoliva
@mlinksva yep, agreed -
lxoliva (lxoliva)'s status on Tuesday, 25-Sep-2012 20:11:38 EDT
lxoliva
@mlinksva it was new because it wasn't an argument on the ethics that apply to all “functional” works, but on practical problems -
lxoliva (lxoliva)'s status on Tuesday, 25-Sep-2012 20:10:20 EDT
lxoliva
@mlinksva what was newish to me was the clearly stated argument against CC-BY-NC-SA for educational works -
lxoliva (lxoliva)'s status on Tuesday, 25-Sep-2012 20:08:54 EDT
lxoliva
@mlinksva while you attributed a change of opinion to RMS WRT educational works, this article had no news about his position to me -
lxoliva (lxoliva)'s status on Tuesday, 25-Sep-2012 20:05:15 EDT
lxoliva
@mlinksva FTR, my understanding of his position doesn't stem from as little as a couple of web pages -
lxoliva (lxoliva)'s status on Tuesday, 25-Sep-2012 20:04:27 EDT
lxoliva
@mlinksva do you see evidence *for* the position attributed to @rms? it's lack thereof that makes it a strawman -
lxoliva (lxoliva)'s status on Tuesday, 25-Sep-2012 18:45:57 EDT
lxoliva
@zotz I happen to agree with you, but that's no excuse for strawman, is it? :-) -
lxoliva (lxoliva)'s status on Tuesday, 25-Sep-2012 17:40:56 EDT
lxoliva
@zotz IIUC his opinion is more like ability to change works of art/entertainment/opinion isn't needed for their educational uses
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