Notices tagged with fsf, page 25
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lxoliva (lxoliva)'s status on Monday, 25-Mar-2013 15:44:50 EDT lxoliva
@zykotick9 that's conflating two dimensions: Free Software vs non-Free non-Software -
lxoliva (lxoliva)'s status on Monday, 25-Mar-2013 15:41:11 EDT lxoliva
@d3f and they're maintained by Debian volunteers using Debian infrastructure. double thinking of it as not Debian doesn't solve the problem -
lxoliva (lxoliva)'s status on Monday, 25-Mar-2013 15:34:52 EDT lxoliva
@zykotick9 see, that's where the difference between using (choosing only Free) and recommending (with bundled non-Free) is -
electronaut (electronaut)'s status on Monday, 25-Mar-2013 15:02:40 EDT electronaut
@d3f Thank you for clarifying. I appreciate that! -
arnebab (arnebab)'s status on Monday, 25-Mar-2013 14:34:07 EDT arnebab
I bought starcraft II, yet I don’t feel good about that. It’s a compromise, not a complete joy. I also drive by car at times. -
zykotick9 (zykotick9)'s status on Monday, 25-Mar-2013 14:29:55 EDT zykotick9
@thelastproject i agree. free software + free art = free society. copyleft FTW! -
zykotick9 (zykotick9)'s status on Monday, 25-Mar-2013 14:26:16 EDT zykotick9
@cwebber if the software is free, and the art isn't - i can appreciate that (only due to RMS's view TBH). i own doom 1&2&3 ;) -
vvillenave (vvillenave)'s status on Monday, 25-Mar-2013 14:25:39 EDT vvillenave
Well put. RD @cwebber I think encouraging "build from source media assets" is great, and enforcing it is terrible. -
thelastproject (thelastproject)'s status on Monday, 25-Mar-2013 14:24:12 EDT thelastproject
Game art should at least be redistributable imho. If you can't redistribute the game art, you can't run the game, as it depends on it. -
thelastproject (thelastproject)'s status on Monday, 25-Mar-2013 14:23:44 EDT thelastproject
Last time I checked it was this way. Encouraging is great, but I think Debian punishes too much, as the art files are still usable and Free. -
cwebber (cwebber)'s status on Monday, 25-Mar-2013 14:23:28 EDT cwebber
License freeness/non-freeness is good; though plenty of liberated pixel cup sprites were edited pixel by pixel; it's more complex here -
cwebber (cwebber)'s status on Monday, 25-Mar-2013 14:20:13 EDT cwebber
Is that true? I think encouraging "build from source media assets" is great and enforcing it is terrible. -
zykotick9 (zykotick9)'s status on Monday, 25-Mar-2013 14:18:48 EDT zykotick9
@thelastproject fyi RMS has no issue with game art being non-free. i don't think deb is "too strict", either it's free, or it's not! -
thelastproject (thelastproject)'s status on Monday, 25-Mar-2013 14:15:31 EDT thelastproject
It is all properly licensed (CC-BY-SA mostly), though. And the FSF considers it Free Software. Yet Debian doesn't. -
thelastproject (thelastproject)'s status on Monday, 25-Mar-2013 14:14:56 EDT thelastproject
I personally think Debian is too strict. I know Red Eclipse is in their non-Free repository because they miss GIMP/etc. files for artwork... -
zykotick9 (zykotick9)'s status on Monday, 25-Mar-2013 14:08:59 EDT zykotick9
@d3f where fsf and debian disagree in what's "free", becomes a grey area for me ;) -
d3f (d3f)'s status on Monday, 25-Mar-2013 14:05:38 EDT d3f
they are hosted on debians servers afaik - and I am only telling you the fsf-points for me - I use debian and I like their freedom. -
zykotick9 (zykotick9)'s status on Monday, 25-Mar-2013 14:01:54 EDT zykotick9
@d3f this is an opportunity! contrib & non-free are not debian! "you're on your own" should be told to anyone seeking non-free support -
zykotick9 (zykotick9)'s status on Monday, 25-Mar-2013 13:57:07 EDT zykotick9
@robmyers debian is free! the fsf server room, that goes to great lengths, to be "libre" uses it. BUT they don't recommend it? -
zykotick9 (zykotick9)'s status on Monday, 25-Mar-2013 13:53:32 EDT zykotick9
@thelastproject yes. debian should be on FSF's list of approved distro's. this is an issue! work/compromise on both sides is needed.