Notices tagged with cc, page 40
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zotz (zotz)'s status on Wednesday, 26-Sep-2012 14:37:36 EDT zotz
no sorry needed to/for me as i regard this as a *conversation* among "friends" -
mlinksva (mlinksva)'s status on Wednesday, 26-Sep-2012 11:42:48 EDT mlinksva
@zotz …have posted in subthread. did bc failed to contain tic of mine which revolts at ppl leaping to defend ~heroes from sound criticism. -
mlinksva (mlinksva)'s status on Wednesday, 26-Sep-2012 11:39:36 EDT mlinksva
@zotz "too strong" only in "asserts", which was not done positively, but by implication. anyway, sorry to both you and @lxoliva. I shouldnt… -
zotz (zotz)'s status on Wednesday, 26-Sep-2012 08:38:35 EDT zotz
They all have a function and serve a purpose. -
zotz (zotz)'s status on Wednesday, 26-Sep-2012 08:36:37 EDT zotz
The bogosity is from the thought that there exist works that are not functional in some sphere of human endeavour. The are all functional. -
zotz (zotz)'s status on Wednesday, 26-Sep-2012 08:34:19 EDT zotz
There exists some works that are not useful for education or that some works used for educational purposes gain no benefit from Freedom. Not -
zotz (zotz)'s status on Wednesday, 26-Sep-2012 08:14:21 EDT zotz
"digital educational works" a distinct group from "works of art/entertainment" and those "that present personal viewpoints" Not too strong. -
zotz (zotz)'s status on Wednesday, 26-Sep-2012 08:11:20 EDT zotz
no strawman, no distinction that other educational resources may not need to be modifiable. -
lxoliva (lxoliva)'s status on Tuesday, 25-Sep-2012 20:56:26 EDT lxoliva
@mlinksva yep, agreed -
mlinksva (mlinksva)'s status on Tuesday, 25-Sep-2012 20:38:28 EDT mlinksva
@lxoliva true, but then "Even if the problem with CC-BY-NC-SA and CC-BY-NC is fixed, they still won't be the right way to release edu..." :) -
mlinksva (mlinksva)'s status on Tuesday, 25-Sep-2012 20:32:54 EDT mlinksva
@lxoliva yes it is a nice newish emphasis. -ish because "educational works" already called out as functional in http://ur1.ca/af5g2 -
mlinksva (mlinksva)'s status on Tuesday, 25-Sep-2012 20:31:37 EDT mlinksva
@lxoliva I didn't attribute a change re educational works. The change, some months ago, was re scientific works. See above. -
mlinksva (mlinksva)'s status on Tuesday, 25-Sep-2012 20:28:27 EDT mlinksva
@lxoliva yes, implication by omission: nothing about category overlap. admittedly @zotz "asserts" too strong. apologies. -
lxoliva (lxoliva)'s status on Tuesday, 25-Sep-2012 20:11:38 EDT lxoliva
@mlinksva it was new because it wasn't an argument on the ethics that apply to all “functional” works, but on practical problems -
lxoliva (lxoliva)'s status on Tuesday, 25-Sep-2012 20:10:20 EDT lxoliva
@mlinksva what was newish to me was the clearly stated argument against CC-BY-NC-SA for educational works -
lxoliva (lxoliva)'s status on Tuesday, 25-Sep-2012 20:08:54 EDT lxoliva
@mlinksva while you attributed a change of opinion to RMS WRT educational works, this article had no news about his position to me -
lxoliva (lxoliva)'s status on Tuesday, 25-Sep-2012 20:05:15 EDT lxoliva
@mlinksva FTR, my understanding of his position doesn't stem from as little as a couple of web pages -
lxoliva (lxoliva)'s status on Tuesday, 25-Sep-2012 20:04:27 EDT lxoliva
@mlinksva do you see evidence *for* the position attributed to @rms? it's lack thereof that makes it a strawman -
mlinksva (mlinksva)'s status on Tuesday, 25-Sep-2012 19:46:59 EDT mlinksva
@lxoliva I see no evidence for your understanding in http://ur1.ca/acvj6 or http://ur1.ca/af5g2 ; strawman accusation bogus. -
lxoliva (lxoliva)'s status on Tuesday, 25-Sep-2012 18:45:57 EDT lxoliva
@zotz I happen to agree with you, but that's no excuse for strawman, is it? :-)