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1. Joshua Judson Rosen (rozzin)'s status on Thursday, 31-Mar-2016 17:07:00 EDT Joshua Judson Rosen
   Today's all about #convenience, apparently: now I'm brute-forcing my way through discovery of the hundreds of packages I need to install before I can get the `convenient' Qt installer to run without segfaulting.
   • Joshua Judson Rosen (rozzin)'s status on Thursday, 31-Mar-2016 17:08:31 EDT Joshua Judson Rosen
     Oh, there we go--apparently the Qt installer needs DBus....
   • Jeff Ratliff (gomerx)'s status on Thursday, 31-Mar-2016 17:12:25 EDT Jeff Ratliff

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     Everything needs dbus and pulseaudio and systemd these days. It's a trap I say!
   • vinzv (vinzv)'s status on Thursday, 31-Mar-2016 17:13:34 EDT vinzv

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     • Joshua Judson Rosen
     @rozzin Today I went through a forum's thread on plasma 5.6 and opensuse. Spanning over three pages the participants were trying to de-puzzle version numbers of KDE Frameworks, Plasma, Qt and KDE Apps. Horribly convenient.
   • Joshua Judson Rosen (rozzin)'s status on Thursday, 31-Mar-2016 17:24:01 EDT Joshua Judson Rosen
     Now... why to people think it makes any sense whatsoever to present the #GPL as a #EULA? What part of "You are not required to accept this License in order to receive or run a copy of the Program" do these people not understand? That's the text *in the `agreement'* following the "You must accept the terms contained in this agreement before continuing with the installation" header.
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   • maiyannah (maiyannah)'s status on Thursday, 31-Mar-2016 17:43:43 EDT maiyannah

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     • Joshua Judson Rosen
     @rozzin IME, they're mostly people who don't actually modify the generic install packages they use to be sensible in this regard.  It's still a requirement usually to present the GPL which they are trying to do.
   • Joshua Judson Rosen (rozzin)'s status on Thursday, 31-Mar-2016 18:07:01 EDT Joshua Judson Rosen
     Progress: finished install, QT Creator fails after “Warning: QXcbWindow: Unhandled client message: "_GTK_LOAD_ICONTHEMES"”. Wait..., *what*?
   • Joshua Judson Rosen (rozzin)'s status on Thursday, 31-Mar-2016 18:18:20 EDT Joshua Judson Rosen
     Oh, no..., the error is actually “This application failed to start because it could not find or load the Qt platform plugin "xcb" [...] Reinstalling the application may fix this problem”. Somehow I suspect reinstalling is not the answer....
   • Bran Tarik (brantarik)'s status on Thursday, 31-Mar-2016 19:26:12 EDT Bran Tarik

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     @vinzv @rozzin and i just found out that KDE nor GNOME isnt for me. ;-)
   • vinzv (vinzv)'s status on Thursday, 31-Mar-2016 19:45:02 EDT vinzv

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     • Bran Tarik
     @brantarik Heh! I was a long-term Gnome and Xfce user. And Openbox of course.
     Since Plasma5 I'm quite happy with KDE.
   • Joshua Judson Rosen (rozzin)'s status on Thursday, 31-Mar-2016 22:07:33 EDT Joshua Judson Rosen

     • Bran Tarik
     @brantarik, I'm really being (slightly) deliberately stupid here, esp re: the `how come Qt needs GTK+!?' thing. I remember the #badolddays when GTK+ and Qt didn't co-exist well at all--and then it was quite nice when they started being able to use each other's back-end engines. It was surprising to see what *looked* like a refusal of one to run without the other, though.
   • Joshua Judson Rosen (rozzin)'s status on Thursday, 31-Mar-2016 22:12:26 EDT Joshua Judson Rosen

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     And TBH a big part of my problem is my being way more #paranoid than I needed to be—trying to bootstrap my Qt dev env in a minimal #chroot…
   • Joshua Judson Rosen (rozzin)'s status on Thursday, 31-Mar-2016 22:16:00 EDT Joshua Judson Rosen
     The #Qt installer appears to be much better-behaved than I expected; I'm too used to installers like this shitting all over the host system.