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Jeff Ratliff (gomerx)'s status on Sunday, 14-Feb-2016 22:31:03 EST 
Jeff Ratliff
Why does it matter what instance someone is on? I still have to subscribe to them to get their notices. I'm confused. -
Jeff Ratliff (gomerx)'s status on Sunday, 14-Feb-2016 22:39:41 EST
Jeff Ratliff
OK. But people on your server can still sub to them on another instance and benefit from your resources. That's federation. -
Jeff Ratliff (gomerx)'s status on Sunday, 14-Feb-2016 23:55:50 EST
Jeff Ratliff
Nearly the same resources. You receive their notices, store them in the database then serve them to subscribers. What is different? -
Jeff Ratliff (gomerx)'s status on Tuesday, 16-Feb-2016 10:19:04 EST
Jeff Ratliff
So we should exclude all new users, not just Nazis? I'm confused. -
Jeff Ratliff (gomerx)'s status on Tuesday, 16-Feb-2016 10:19:55 EST
Jeff Ratliff
I think what people are missing when they try to censor is that the #fediverse is one big machine. You can't easily exclude people. -
Jeff Ratliff (gomerx)'s status on Tuesday, 16-Feb-2016 10:21:06 EST
Jeff Ratliff
But hey, some of us think #freedom is a feature, not a bug. We created this network because we want freedom from control. Joshua Judson Rosen likes this. -
Jeff Ratliff (gomerx)'s status on Tuesday, 16-Feb-2016 21:46:49 EST
Jeff Ratliff
And I'm saying that is wrong. Resources are consumed by the subscribers, not the subscribee. StatusNet/GNUSocial is push, not pull. -
Jeff Ratliff (gomerx)'s status on Tuesday, 16-Feb-2016 21:52:10 EST
Jeff Ratliff
I don't believe enforcing different social norms is possible. Unless you tell users who they can subscribe to. -
Jeff Ratliff (gomerx)'s status on Wednesday, 17-Feb-2016 14:11:47 EST
Jeff Ratliff
As a child in the US I learned that freedom of speech meant freedom for everybody, even people I don't like. Who decides what is offensive? -
Jeff Ratliff (gomerx)'s status on Wednesday, 17-Feb-2016 14:13:57 EST
Jeff Ratliff
Sure. You can do anything you want if you're an admin. I wouldn't call it easy. It feels counter to the basic principles of federation. -
Jeff Ratliff (gomerx)'s status on Wednesday, 17-Feb-2016 14:15:25 EST
Jeff Ratliff
If someone wants to hear offensive content, it will be heard. Which means it is not offensive to some. Again, we do our own moderation here -
Jeff Ratliff (gomerx)'s status on Wednesday, 17-Feb-2016 14:18:13 EST
Jeff Ratliff
Right. So an instance can initiate a push. But that instance still bears the burden of serving its subscribers. -
Jeff Ratliff (gomerx)'s status on Wednesday, 17-Feb-2016 14:20:54 EST
Jeff Ratliff
That itself is an absolute statement. :) But yes, freedom ends when someone else gets hurt. -
Jeff Ratliff (gomerx)'s status on Wednesday, 17-Feb-2016 14:21:55 EST
Jeff Ratliff
In the current discussion, no one is forcing anyone to subscribe to offensive users, so no one can get hurt except by their own choice. -
Jeff Ratliff (gomerx)'s status on Wednesday, 17-Feb-2016 14:25:40 EST
Jeff Ratliff
The nobles do what? Can we make them stop? -
MMN-o ✅⃠ (mmn)'s status on Wednesday, 17-Feb-2016 14:33:14 EST 
MMN-o ✅⃠
@gomerx Until we invent the device that can stab people in the face over the internet: http://bash.org/?4281 -
Jeff Ratliff (gomerx)'s status on Wednesday, 17-Feb-2016 14:44:42 EST
Jeff Ratliff
Personally I don't consider insults to be harmful, especially if I invited the person. I may decide not to invite them in the future -
Jeff Ratliff (gomerx)'s status on Wednesday, 17-Feb-2016 14:49:26 EST
Jeff Ratliff
There are some who would not consider this offensive. -
Jeff Ratliff (gomerx)'s status on Wednesday, 17-Feb-2016 15:00:01 EST
Jeff Ratliff
I disagree. Being offensive is not enough to ban someone, people can just unsubscribe. BUt you can do what you want on your server
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