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  1. Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca (bobjonkmanformer)'s status on Sunday, 26-Oct-2014 13:46:01 EDT Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca
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    • Moshpirit
    I disagree with @SuePGardner: "I think that most people, most of the time, have decided to just assume everything we do online is public, and to conduct ourselves accordingly." I wish people did, but instead most people believe the "privacy" settings of Facebook really do protect their NSFW pictures, otherwise we wouldn't have things like The #Fappening http://suegardner.org/2014/10/22/why-im-in-favour-of-online-anonymity/ !privacy
    Sunday, 26-Oct-2014 13:46:01 EDT from sn.jonkman.ca permalink
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    • Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca (bobjonkmanformer)'s status on Sunday, 26-Oct-2014 13:52:33 EDT Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca
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      But I agree that stronger and more easily accessible !anonymity software like !Tor is needed. Somebody host another !Cryptoparty!
      Sunday, 26-Oct-2014 13:52:33 EDT permalink
    • Joshua Judson Rosen (rozzin)'s status on Saturday, 08-Nov-2014 14:12:04 EST Joshua Judson Rosen Joshua Judson Rosen
      • Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca
      I know people who say&think they "just assume everything they do online is public" but still post obviously-private things to Facebook. They don't even see the contradiction.
      Saturday, 08-Nov-2014 14:12:04 EST permalink
    • Joshua Judson Rosen (rozzin)'s status on Saturday, 08-Nov-2014 14:14:03 EST Joshua Judson Rosen Joshua Judson Rosen
      • Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca
      @bobjonkman, they don't even see the contradiction between "I just assume whatever I post is public" and "I have my privacy settings tightened all the way down".
      Saturday, 08-Nov-2014 14:14:03 EST permalink
    • Joshua Judson Rosen (rozzin)'s status on Saturday, 08-Nov-2014 14:24:40 EST Joshua Judson Rosen Joshua Judson Rosen
      • Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca
      One of the things that I've really liked about the #GNUSocial community was that, because everyone knew everything was public, conversations have been more thoughtful—and I've never had to worry about you guys getting duped into posting naked pictures of me.
      Saturday, 08-Nov-2014 14:24:40 EST permalink
    • Joshua Judson Rosen (rozzin)'s status on Saturday, 08-Nov-2014 14:29:01 EST Joshua Judson Rosen Joshua Judson Rosen
      ... on the other hand: #panopticon? #chillingeffects? It's nice to also have private spaces that are actually private, where fleeting moments are actually fleeting and things that just `look bad to outsiders' actually don't look like anything to people who weren't there.
      Saturday, 08-Nov-2014 14:29:01 EST permalink
    • MMN-o ✅⃠ (mmn)'s status on Saturday, 08-Nov-2014 14:57:32 EST MMN-o ✅⃠ MMN-o ✅⃠
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      • Joshua Judson Rosen
      Whatever anyone calls a "social media" is just as [non-]private as any other "social" place. What we publih is formed by the tool we use - and !gnusocial currently works as a very obviously public tool just as you mentioned.

      I generally recommend private communication to be handled with some entirely different front-end. Be it XMPP (better) or SMTP (worse)... Just as long as it's not (intuitively) the same platform.
      Saturday, 08-Nov-2014 14:57:32 EST permalink
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    • MMN-o ✅⃠ (mmn)'s status on Saturday, 08-Nov-2014 15:01:35 EST MMN-o ✅⃠ MMN-o ✅⃠
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      • Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca
      Let's use Facebook as an example. People use it to publish public event info, discuss work related issues and "like" whatever campaign they're into right now. But they ALSO send private messages and share private pictures in photo albums. Even _if_ Facebook was a perfect, non-crackable safe - that _behavioural_ effect merges the cautioness of public posts with the more…
      Saturday, 08-Nov-2014 15:01:35 EST permalink

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    • sazius (sazius)'s status on Saturday, 08-Nov-2014 16:11:11 EST sazius sazius
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      • MMN-o ✅⃠
      This is an interesting discussion (and naturally, I haven't yet read the article :-) I agree with @mmn that the public and private stuff need to be in a completely separate forum/app. For me that's social networks like GNU Social in the one end, and then GPG email and OTR XMPP chat in the other. But never the less, I sometimes feel I need something in between those as well.…
      Saturday, 08-Nov-2014 16:11:11 EST permalink

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    • Mikael (inscius)'s status on Saturday, 08-Nov-2014 16:20:17 EST Mikael Mikael
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      • sazius
      @sazius @mmn we have to whisper in empty toilet rolls to our friends at the pub ;-)
      Saturday, 08-Nov-2014 16:20:17 EST permalink
    • MMN-o ✅⃠ (mmn)'s status on Saturday, 08-Nov-2014 17:23:07 EST MMN-o ✅⃠ MMN-o ✅⃠
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      • sazius
      @sazius I would say that emotional outbursts are best kept offline. Among people you know who can tell the difference between whether your just fed up or simply an asshole. Things like political agendas, sexuality and various other sensitive personal information are - until you feel confident in standing up for it - best handled through pseudonyms and that kind of rol…
      Saturday, 08-Nov-2014 17:23:07 EST permalink

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    • Joshua Judson Rosen (rozzin)'s status on Saturday, 08-Nov-2014 21:28:07 EST Joshua Judson Rosen Joshua Judson Rosen
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      @mmn, the dinner I just finished would like to contribute this summary thought: http://status.hackerposse.com/attachment/6440
      Saturday, 08-Nov-2014 21:28:07 EST permalink

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    • MMN-o ✅⃠ (mmn)'s status on Sunday, 09-Nov-2014 03:36:30 EST MMN-o ✅⃠ MMN-o ✅⃠
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      • Joshua Judson Rosen
      Does this dinner have an #OStatus account? I'd like to follow its wisdom.
      Sunday, 09-Nov-2014 03:36:30 EST permalink
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