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1. DJ Dougernaut (douglasawh)'s status on Wednesday, 15-May-2013 12:47:28 EDT DJ Dougernaut

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   now we are moving on to FLOM: free and open media
   • dennisgut (dennisgut)'s status on Wednesday, 15-May-2013 13:16:03 EDT dennisgut

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     • DJ Dougernaut
     @douglasawh !CC MEDIA? :-)
   • DJ Dougernaut (douglasawh)'s status on Wednesday, 15-May-2013 13:49:41 EDT DJ Dougernaut

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     • dennisgut
     We haven't defined what exactly #FLOM is. We want the term to embrace free software and free culture, but we don't want to be held down by those definitions. For example, a show that records via GNU/Linux but using Skype could be FLOM (or whatever we end up going with).
   • dennisgut (dennisgut)'s status on Wednesday, 15-May-2013 14:27:10 EDT dennisgut

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     • DJ Dougernaut
     Are you kidding? A show recorded with #Skype via !GNU / !Linux should be better listed under SPYM = Spy Proprietary Your Media
   • DJ Dougernaut (douglasawh)'s status on Wednesday, 15-May-2013 14:50:47 EDT DJ Dougernaut

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     • dennisgut
     if you are releasing to the world, what does it matter if you are spied upon?
   • DJ Dougernaut (douglasawh)'s status on Wednesday, 15-May-2013 14:52:12 EDT DJ Dougernaut

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     • dennisgut
     we did have this discussion though, and I was against the idea. We are open for suggestions on something aside from "independent media"
   • jxself (jxself)'s status on Wednesday, 15-May-2013 14:54:21 EDT jxself

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     • DJ Dougernaut
     Isn't there already an established definition? http://www.ur1.ca/0j2 such as "use of a free format", etc.
   • DJ Dougernaut (douglasawh)'s status on Wednesday, 15-May-2013 14:56:32 EDT DJ Dougernaut

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     • Stephen
     that's for free content. It says nothing about method of production. We are looking for something to encompass a license. It's more aspirational. It was mostly @marxistvegan's idea, so maybe he can say exactly what he was thinking about.
   • DJ Dougernaut (douglasawh)'s status on Wednesday, 15-May-2013 14:57:26 EDT DJ Dougernaut

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     • jxself
     ugh. Left out the "not". We are NOT looking for something to encompass a license.
   • jxself (jxself)'s status on Wednesday, 15-May-2013 15:28:10 EDT jxself

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     • DJ Dougernaut
     Not all proprietary programs can work with free formats, which seems to exclude them from being able to make free cultural works.