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1. thep (thep)'s status on Tuesday, 18-Sep-2012 03:22:35 EDT thep

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   network-manager downgraded from Depends to Recommends for !gnome in !debian . Love this! http://ur1.ca/abfqa
   • usrshare (usrshare)'s status on Tuesday, 18-Sep-2012 03:34:13 EDT usrshare

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     • thep
     Dunno. NM is stable enough to be used nowadays.
   • thep (thep)'s status on Tuesday, 18-Sep-2012 04:10:00 EDT thep

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     It prevented me from setting IP on text console on my friend's machine where X server is broken, for example.
   • usrshare (usrshare)'s status on Tuesday, 18-Sep-2012 04:18:43 EDT usrshare

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     • thep
     On the other hand, wicd and others have problems with mobile modems and PPPoE/PPTP connections.
   • thep (thep)'s status on Tuesday, 18-Sep-2012 04:42:18 EDT thep

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     So, ifupdown is a good solution.
   • thep (thep)'s status on Tuesday, 18-Sep-2012 04:48:17 EDT thep

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     After all, the point is that NM should not be enforced when it breaks or complicates things in some cases.
   • thep (thep)'s status on Tuesday, 18-Sep-2012 10:26:45 EDT thep

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     • Aitor Pazos
     @aitorpazos No, thanks. I'd rather be aware of my connection status than being done silently.
   • thep (thep)'s status on Tuesday, 18-Sep-2012 10:55:40 EDT thep

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     • Aitor Pazos
     @aitorpazos I mean, when I want to connect, I'll do it myself. I don't want to get connected in the background and know it afterwards.
   • thep (thep)'s status on Tuesday, 18-Sep-2012 10:59:42 EDT thep

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     • Aitor Pazos
     @aitorpazos Besides, I don't want to depend on graphic mode. As I said, when X server is broken, NM becomes burden.