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marjoleink (marjoleink)'s status on Thursday, 13-Sep-2012 14:34:28 EDT 
marjoleink
!linux !debian !lazyweb is there anything hardware-wise I should avoid when buying a computer to run Debian/Mint on? -
drysdam (drysdam)'s status on Thursday, 13-Sep-2012 15:18:44 EDT 
drysdam
winmodems -
grmpyoldman (grmpyoldman)'s status on Thursday, 13-Sep-2012 15:26:42 EDT 
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@marjoleink i do always check all components f.ex with www.linux-drivers.org/ -
piorekf (piorekf)'s status on Thursday, 13-Sep-2012 15:28:11 EDT 
piorekf
@marjoleink Newest Intel Atoms bit.ly/RUKXUJ -
marjoleink (marjoleink)'s status on Thursday, 13-Sep-2012 15:32:42 EDT
marjoleink
@drysdam I don't think so, but I'll check - thanks! -
marjoleink (marjoleink)'s status on Thursday, 13-Sep-2012 15:34:05 EDT
marjoleink
@grmpyoldman thanks, that looks useful - I'll ask the shop for a complete list of components! -
marjoleink (marjoleink)'s status on Thursday, 13-Sep-2012 15:37:48 EDT
marjoleink
@piorekf are Atoms used in desktop machines? I seem to associate them with laptops -
piorekf (piorekf)'s status on Thursday, 13-Sep-2012 15:41:58 EDT
piorekf
@marjoleink There are desktop versions of Atom's. Nxxx models are for netbooks and Dxxx are for desktops. Didn't noticed you ment desktop. -
marjoleink (marjoleink)'s status on Thursday, 13-Sep-2012 15:55:09 EDT
marjoleink
@piorekf aha, thanks! Good to know - easy to remember by model name, too :) -
mrp41n (mrp41n)'s status on Thursday, 13-Sep-2012 16:49:20 EDT 
mrp41n
why are you talking about !Mint? install debian stable and see what you get... http://linuxhcl.com/ if you need... -
magicfab (magicfab)'s status on Thursday, 13-Sep-2012 17:23:39 EDT 
magicfab
@marjoleink mostly broadcom, ATI & Nvidia.. Buy from http://www.thinkpenguin.com to have a guaranteed freedom-friendly pc. #Trisquel #Debian -
magicfab (magicfab)'s status on Thursday, 13-Sep-2012 17:25:43 EDT
magicfab
@marjoleink also check against http://h-node.org/ -
Joshua Judson Rosen (rozzin)'s status on Thursday, 13-Sep-2012 18:29:08 EDT 
Joshua Judson Rosen
@marjoleink: @system76 apparently now ships to your area, FYI: https://www.system76.com/home/shippinginformation/ !debian -
gryps75 (gryps75)'s status on Friday, 14-Sep-2012 01:21:48 EDT 
gryps75
@marjoleink you should avoid ATI graphics. I had to install proprietary drivers and there are still problems with gnome3. -
marjoleink (marjoleink)'s status on Friday, 14-Sep-2012 01:53:18 EDT
marjoleink
Last time I looked Mint had far more of the kind of software I need ready to go... I need graphics browsing, editing (incl. metadata), DAM -
marjoleink (marjoleink)'s status on Friday, 14-Sep-2012 01:54:04 EDT
marjoleink
also video creation/editing (for slideshows, mostly) -
marjoleink (marjoleink)'s status on Friday, 14-Sep-2012 01:56:00 EDT
marjoleink
I want to buy local - definitely not online from across the big pond! far less hassle with service -
marjoleink (marjoleink)'s status on Friday, 14-Sep-2012 01:57:43 EDT
marjoleink
@magicfab Ah, that helped, sending me to X.org wiki where I finally found the family of graphics cards in the systems I'm looking at -
marjoleink (marjoleink)'s status on Friday, 14-Sep-2012 02:00:42 EDT
marjoleink
@magicfab I could not find HD7770 or HD7750 on http://www.linux-drivers.org/ at all - seems to be Radeon 'Southern Islands' -
marjoleink (marjoleink)'s status on Friday, 14-Sep-2012 02:02:13 EDT
marjoleink
@rozzin their systems look attractive but I still want to buy local - far less hassle for service (not to mention shipping costs!) -
marjoleink (marjoleink)'s status on Friday, 14-Sep-2012 02:03:10 EDT
marjoleink
@gryps75 hmm - does Radeon HD7750 or HD7770 count as 'ATI'? I see it listed as 'Sapphire Radeon' here -
marjoleink (marjoleink)'s status on Friday, 14-Sep-2012 02:08:43 EDT
marjoleink
@rozzin at least, looking at their specs, Intel i5 or i7 should not be a problem -
masaru20100 (masaru20100)'s status on Friday, 14-Sep-2012 02:26:48 EDT 
masaru20100
Wherever you are, there is probably a similar company in your country or vicinity. -
gryps75 (gryps75)'s status on Friday, 14-Sep-2012 02:32:49 EDT
gryps75
@marjoleink Yes they are ATI. My expierence where with Radeon HD 4200 and HD 5400 combined. Other cards may work better, but I wouldn't .. -
gryps75 (gryps75)'s status on Friday, 14-Sep-2012 02:32:50 EDT
gryps75
.. count on AMD/ATI any more after all problems I had -
gryps75 (gryps75)'s status on Friday, 14-Sep-2012 02:41:30 EDT
gryps75
@gryps75 Ouch, I really need a spellchecker in identicurse ;-) s/where/were/ -
gryps75 (gryps75)'s status on Friday, 14-Sep-2012 02:44:06 EDT
gryps75
@gryps75 Although in this case no spellchecker could have shown a fail -
gryps75 (gryps75)'s status on Friday, 14-Sep-2012 02:53:07 EDT
gryps75
@marjoleink O.K., ATI != Sapphire and I should shut up because I don't have all the information. Sorry! .. -
gryps75 (gryps75)'s status on Friday, 14-Sep-2012 02:53:09 EDT
gryps75
.. http://ur1.ca/a8bju -
marjoleink (marjoleink)'s status on Friday, 14-Sep-2012 03:40:52 EDT
marjoleink
@gryps75 I am now thoroughly confused :) "Sapphire Radeon" = or != Radeon?? Should I play safe and go for nVidia? -
grmpyoldman (grmpyoldman)'s status on Friday, 14-Sep-2012 03:45:06 EDT
grmpyoldman
@marjoleink if you take nvidia, check out for "bumblebee". #foo -
gryps75 (gryps75)'s status on Friday, 14-Sep-2012 03:53:33 EDT
gryps75
@marjoleink You should ask, which manufaturer has given the community enough infos to build free drivers. Honestly, I don't know the .. -
gryps75 (gryps75)'s status on Friday, 14-Sep-2012 03:53:35 EDT
gryps75
.. answer myself -
marjoleink (marjoleink)'s status on Friday, 14-Sep-2012 04:32:15 EDT
marjoleink
@grmpyoldman interesting, but that seems to be for mobile computing? I need an under-the-desktop computer -
marjoleink (marjoleink)'s status on Friday, 14-Sep-2012 04:35:51 EDT
marjoleink
@masaru20100 so far I found one that offers a choice of Win7/Linux for €100(!) less for Linux, but only lower-end models -
marjoleink (marjoleink)'s status on Friday, 14-Sep-2012 04:36:19 EDT
marjoleink
@masaru20100 so far I found one that offers a choice of Win7/Linux for €100(!) less for Linux, but only lower-end models -
marjoleink (marjoleink)'s status on Friday, 14-Sep-2012 04:41:36 EDT
marjoleink
@masaru20100 so far I found one that offers a choice of Win7/Linux for €100(!) less for Linux, but only lower-end models - still looking...
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