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  1. MMN-o ✅⃠ (mmn)'s status on Tuesday, 05-Sep-2017 17:35:37 EDT MMN-o ✅⃠ MMN-o ✅⃠
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    • Sean Tilley
    @deadsuperhero To be replaced with what, pseudoprivacy?
    Tuesday, 05-Sep-2017 17:35:37 EDT from social.umeahackerspace.se permalink
    • Christopher Lemmer Webber (cwebber)'s status on Tuesday, 05-Sep-2017 18:03:15 EDT Christopher Lemmer Webber Christopher Lemmer Webber
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      • Bob Mottram
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      @bob I think there are quite a few benefits that GNU Social could get by supporting AP. I hope there isn't too much "burn" by seeing it as a "Mastodon vs GNU Social" battle. I tried pretty hard to avoid that; @mmn and @deadsuperhero both at least can verify that I did try to get GNU Social and everyone else involved. I know that's not an obligation for GNU Social t…
      Tuesday, 05-Sep-2017 18:03:15 EDT permalink

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      MMN-o ✅⃠ repeated this.
    • MMN-o ✅⃠ (mmn)'s status on Tuesday, 05-Sep-2017 18:37:58 EDT MMN-o ✅⃠ MMN-o ✅⃠
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      • Christopher Lemmer Webber
      @cwebber The only reason !GNUsocial doesn't have #ActivityPub yet is because I have a fulltime job and noone else has been up for the task .] Though I'm pretty sure it'd still just be the 100% public parts of AP that would be used/promoted, as I'm pretty much convinced there's no such thing as privacy in the social sphere anyway and anyone using "private" communicatio…
      Tuesday, 05-Sep-2017 18:37:58 EDT permalink

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    • MMN-o ✅⃠ (mmn)'s status on Tuesday, 05-Sep-2017 18:40:10 EDT MMN-o ✅⃠ MMN-o ✅⃠
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      • Christopher Lemmer Webber
      @cwebber Indeed you and others involved with AP spec development have been very inclusive, inviting and encouraging. I very much appreciate your (and everyone else's) efforts that have been put into #ActivityPub.
      Tuesday, 05-Sep-2017 18:40:10 EDT permalink
    • MMN-o ✅⃠ (mmn)'s status on Wednesday, 06-Sep-2017 04:11:46 EDT MMN-o ✅⃠ MMN-o ✅⃠
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      • Christopher Lemmer Webber
      @nightpool @cwebber Whether e-mail is used or not is more a question of legacy than that it would respect anyone's privacy. My argumentation is primarily that an environment where the only difference between publishing your sensitive posts/pictures privately or publicly etc. is the value of some checkbox - then it's not appropriate for private communication. Even less…
      Wednesday, 06-Sep-2017 04:11:46 EDT permalink

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    • MMN-o ✅⃠ (mmn)'s status on Wednesday, 06-Sep-2017 04:18:10 EDT MMN-o ✅⃠ MMN-o ✅⃠
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      • Christopher Lemmer Webber
      @ Wednesday, 06-Sep-2017 04:18:10 EDT permalink
    • MMN-o ✅⃠ (mmn)'s status on Wednesday, 06-Sep-2017 04:19:25 EDT MMN-o ✅⃠ MMN-o ✅⃠
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      • you weary giants of
      • Christopher Lemmer Webber
      @ Wednesday, 06-Sep-2017 04:19:25 EDT permalink
    • MMN-o ✅⃠ (mmn)'s status on Wednesday, 06-Sep-2017 04:53:20 EDT MMN-o ✅⃠ MMN-o ✅⃠
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      • platano
      @platano Very true. My point is however that those things (leaks) can never be reduced to zero due to people being people. However, I don't want to see a system where these things can happen by accident. Compare with the policy changes at Facebook, where suddenly things you _thought_ you had set to private suddenly weren't because Facebook's idea of a "friend" (or wha…
      Wednesday, 06-Sep-2017 04:53:20 EDT permalink

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    • MMN-o ✅⃠ (mmn)'s status on Wednesday, 06-Sep-2017 08:44:00 EDT MMN-o ✅⃠ MMN-o ✅⃠
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      • Eugen
      @gargron While it's obvious I would code it like that, my argumentation is that any evil person anywhere could set up an evil node and users would have no idea...
      Wednesday, 06-Sep-2017 08:44:00 EDT permalink
    • MMN-o ✅⃠ (mmn)'s status on Thursday, 07-Sep-2017 05:57:25 EDT MMN-o ✅⃠ MMN-o ✅⃠
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      • Christopher Lemmer Webber
      @cwebber @nightpool web-likeness = public space. Web-unlikeness = privacy capable .]
      Thursday, 07-Sep-2017 05:57:25 EDT permalink
    • MMN-o ✅⃠ (mmn)'s status on Thursday, 07-Sep-2017 06:01:28 EDT MMN-o ✅⃠ MMN-o ✅⃠
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      • Christopher Lemmer Webber
      @cwebber Unless it was a feature with this certain host. Email is however considered like delivering via envelopes while social web platforms are like bulletin boards or at least relatively large group meetings.
      Thursday, 07-Sep-2017 06:01:28 EDT permalink
    • MMN-o ✅⃠ (mmn)'s status on Thursday, 07-Sep-2017 17:47:58 EDT MMN-o ✅⃠ MMN-o ✅⃠
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      • Christopher Lemmer Webber
      @cwebber Then again, the "expected usecase scenario" with !XMPP is like with e-mail. There's no UI (or expectation of any UI) that has a button which says "share this with the world instantly and publicly". Or any kind of accidental tagging-someone-into-a-conversation-and-thus-maybe-letting-them-get-some-conversation-history issues. I'm not talking technical and crypt…
      Thursday, 07-Sep-2017 17:47:58 EDT permalink

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