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@purplehippo Grim Dawn and Darkest Dungeon both seem to rely on the weird sort of gamer Stockholm Syndrome for their money.
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@purplehippo Darkest Dungeon has some pretty compelling production values that are let down by a roguelike design that basically wastes your time. It might be worth it for someone with a high tolerance for that kind of thing.
Grim Dawn on the other hand, just makes too many mistakes for me to recommend to anyone. I can at least concede that there is a market for Darkest Dungeon that'd enjoy it.
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