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1. cyberkiller (cyberkiller)'s status on Monday, 16-Jul-2012 09:26:14 EDT cyberkiller

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   • jcsesecuneta
   @jcsesecuneta ...that would protect the work & author from such exploitation & encourage contributing & sharing at the same time
   • Joshua Judson Rosen (rozzin)'s status on Monday, 16-Jul-2012 14:04:24 EDT Joshua Judson Rosen

     • cyberkiller
     I wish people who `love !CC but don't want to be exploited' would just read the licenses—or even the summaries: http://questioncopyright.org/cc-pro
   • johnnynull (johnnynull)'s status on Monday, 16-Jul-2012 14:14:07 EDT johnnynull

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     • Joshua Judson Rosen
     @rozzin This is the summary: http://ur1.ca/3ssl0 Linking to a wacky remix nobody's heard of doesn't help your case.
   • Joshua Judson Rosen (rozzin)'s status on Monday, 16-Jul-2012 14:31:53 EDT Joshua Judson Rosen

     • cyberkiller
     "Attribution — You must attribute the work in the manner specified by the author or licensor (but not in any way that suggests that they endorse you or your use of the work)" http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/3.0/
   • cyberkiller (cyberkiller)'s status on Tuesday, 17-Jul-2012 00:57:07 EDT cyberkiller

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     • Joshua Judson Rosen
     @rozzin I've read the licenses, I read every license that I use or accept. So this changes what? ;-P
   • dhraakellian (dhraakellian)'s status on Tuesday, 17-Jul-2012 17:35:54 EDT dhraakellian

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     • cyberkiller
     At some point I should jump in & say that "copyright is a symptom of capitalism." !FS, !CC, & copyleft are legal hacks to treat that symptom
   • dhraakellian (dhraakellian)'s status on Tuesday, 17-Jul-2012 17:43:45 EDT dhraakellian

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     @dhraak That quote from a friend, plus Stallman's "Misinterpreting Copyright" (http://is.gd/2czKJe ) are what most formed my current © views
   • mlinksva (mlinksva)'s status on Tuesday, 17-Jul-2012 22:58:10 EDT mlinksva

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     • dhraakellian
     @dhraakellian good quote, but not entirely true. © existed in the USSR. © comes from censorship/power/etc preceding modern ideology. ...
   • mlinksva (mlinksva)'s status on Tuesday, 17-Jul-2012 23:00:06 EDT mlinksva

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     • dhraakellian
     @dhraakellian ...legal hack trival part of FS, which would be a crucial movement with or without ©. Some copyleft goes beyond treating ©.
   • dhraakellian (dhraakellian)'s status on Wednesday, 18-Jul-2012 01:53:25 EDT dhraakellian

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     • mlinksva
     @mlinksva FS licenses, I should have said.
   • dhraakellian (dhraakellian)'s status on Wednesday, 18-Jul-2012 11:03:56 EDT dhraakellian

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     • mlinksva
     @mlinksva fair point about censorship, but I'm reminded of the state capitalism theories of the USSR
   • dhraakellian (dhraakellian)'s status on Wednesday, 18-Jul-2012 11:34:40 EDT dhraakellian

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     • mlinksva
     @mlinksva perhaps the ideal purpose of copyright vs. the historical (and ongoing) misuse of it?
   • mlinksva (mlinksva)'s status on Wednesday, 18-Jul-2012 12:43:11 EDT mlinksva

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     • dhraakellian
     @dhraakellian fair point about USSR as state capitalism; almost mentioned but [now, didn't] save a dent :-)
   • mlinksva (mlinksva)'s status on Wednesday, 18-Jul-2012 12:47:08 EDT mlinksva

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     • dhraakellian
     @dhraakellian yes, as in idealized != reality, only useful as smoke and mirrors obscuring and fetishizing power & control
   • lxoliva (lxoliva)'s status on Wednesday, 18-Jul-2012 15:27:06 EDT lxoliva

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     • mlinksva
     ♻ @mlinksva: legal hack trival part of FS, which would be a crucial movement with or without ©. Some copyleft goes beyond treating ©.
   • Joshua Judson Rosen (rozzin)'s status on Monday, 06-Aug-2012 22:05:42 EDT Joshua Judson Rosen

     • dhraakellian
     @dhraakellian, #capitalism is just a way of empirically determining what society really values, and in what proportions.
   • tius (tius)'s status on Tuesday, 07-Aug-2012 02:23:13 EDT tius

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     • dhraakellian
     ♻ @rozzin: @dhraakellian, #capitalism is just a way of empirically determining what society really values, and in what proportions.
   • silner (silner)'s status on Tuesday, 07-Aug-2012 09:03:47 EDT silner

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     • Joshua Judson Rosen
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     • tius
     @tius @rozzin: @dhraakellian Except it doesn't work so well once there's no scarcity. That's why it fails so often online, maybe?
   • tius (tius)'s status on Tuesday, 07-Aug-2012 10:28:39 EDT tius

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     • silner
     @silner Yeah, maybe.