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What these people want, ultimately, is a place where they can "throw punches" (which they will insist is "punching up", no doubt - we've heard this violent language a lot, after all, to the point it's familiar) where the people they are "throwing punches" at, are disempowered to strike back.
We have a word for that.
That word is "oppression"
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Every day as they find themselves powerless to actually *silence* people, and indeed, often are themselves silenced, they clamour at Eugen's feet to defederate, or make the bad people go away, or implement serial blocklists. They'll get it, too, you can bet on it, though I think the six months lambda suggested is _hugely_ optimistic.
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At this rate more like six days, since his income will likely be contingent on it.
(And people ask why I refuse to do a patreon for postActiv)
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@maiyannah I don't see the downside of mastodon defederating.
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@verius The only downside is to Mastodon, really, since they can't claim that proverbial moral cachet associated with free speech or federation.
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@verius This is why I think the serial blocklists is the way they'll go with that, it lets them have their cake and eat it too.
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@verius While, as I said the other day (yesterday? maybe?| wonky sleep schedules make this unclear, woo) I'm not sure there's much we can programmatically do to dissuade this, if I ever implement things to intentionally make this kind of systematic/group thing easier, please shoot me immediately.
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@sim @verius Verius and I have discussed in the past algorithmic ways to try to defeat group blocklists, but I don't think there's a way we can do this and not at the same time hurt the individual freedom of association. It's a tough thing to consider and unless someone has some bright idea it's a pandora's box I'd rather not open.
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