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Daisy Ridley couldn't act to save her life if TFA is any indication. She was carried by much stronger actors, such as the guy who played our favourite traitor.
That whole move is really a 5/10 at best, it's watchable and not really awful, but doesn't really serve any purpose but to cash in and make disney money and dear god it shows.
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@gameragodzilla I think a lot of ended up positive on it just because our expectations were so low, you know? In retrospect when you look at it with those expectations now not part of the equations, its easy to see that it wasn't all that great, it was just better than "not complete shit."
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@gameragodzilla Basically, it was the one that people felt was worse, because they actually had expectations for it, and it fell short, whereas peoples expectations were basically zero for TFA.
Expecting a 7/10 8/10 and getting a 6/10 film is a -1, -2 difference. Expecting a 0/10 film and getting 5/10 is a +5 difference. Hence favourable reactions. Even though 5>6 last I checked lol.
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@katiekats @gameragodzilla TFA is the first Star Wars film that I genuinely didn't like. And I'm including those made for TV CGI ones from earlier and Clone Wars TV series. It isn't awful, but it's soulless, it has no creative spark, and it shows. Going through the motions so Disney can make money.
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@gameragodzilla @katiekats Exactly. it's just more obvious with Trek because Trek has a very strong singular identity, whereas Star Wars doesn't.
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@gameragodzilla @katiekats We don't talk about that.
But honestly? I'd watch that before TFA. Sure, it's godawful, but well like you say with BF, its at least HILARIOUSLY godawful. Its the kind of cringey bad you can laugh at.
That's more amusing than I found TFA
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@gameragodzilla @katiekats Trek has always had a strong focus on high-minded character drama using intelligent science fiction tropes as the framing device. And, well, it's JJ Abrams.
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@purplehippo @katiekats @gameragodzilla Honestly, none of us can know until it comes out, but what they've given us to speculate with hasn't been promising. I'll probably see it, because it'll be my stepdads excuse for family time, but whether I'll enjoy it or not, well, we'll see.
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@gameragodzilla @katiekats They expected a 10/10 movie and got a movie so bad that it can only be expressed in a part of a mathematical equation that spans several dimensions of existence.
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@gameragodzilla @katiekats JJ Abrams doesn't understand how to do this kind of film and it's obvious. He makes great hollywood blockbuster brainless action flicks, and honestly? For that genre, he's like that genres michelangelo or some shit, he does do that kind of thing very well, but he's not suited to Star Wars AT ALL.
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@gameragodzilla @katiekats Akyryod wanted to appear in his previous role on that film. You know, like pass the torch on to the new generation sort of thing, which would have been neat IMO. But they wouldn't let him.