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DJ Dougernaut (douglasawh)'s status on Wednesday, 24-Apr-2013 15:15:46 EDT 
DJ Dougernaut
as in the activists are in the coop? I'd like to stay away from the word activist for educational and journalistic integrity. I'm not saying activists can't have integrity, just saying I don't want it splashed around everywhere. -
DJ Dougernaut (douglasawh)'s status on Wednesday, 24-Apr-2013 14:17:26 EDT
DJ Dougernaut
oh, and I will be doing an independent study in the fall, which is specifically to figure out the incorporation issues. I can figure out the meat of the coop stuff then if not this summer -
DJ Dougernaut (douglasawh)'s status on Wednesday, 24-Apr-2013 14:08:55 EDT
DJ Dougernaut
although, we have gotten several applications for legal volunteers for the summer, and I have spoken with a few of them about looking at labor and employment law, so maybe we can try to figure out some of the coop stuff this summer. -
DJ Dougernaut (douglasawh)'s status on Wednesday, 24-Apr-2013 14:06:02 EDT
DJ Dougernaut
fiscal sponsors are only centralized in connection with "enforcing" public interest, but as you know, public interest is very broad in the context of 501(c)(3)s -
DJ Dougernaut (douglasawh)'s status on Wednesday, 24-Apr-2013 14:04:51 EDT
DJ Dougernaut
not gonna be taking a class on coops in the near future. We can be a cooperative in a non-legal sense of the word, like Mayfirst. -
DJ Dougernaut (douglasawh)'s status on Wednesday, 24-Apr-2013 13:02:50 EDT
DJ Dougernaut
@marxistvegan ya know, maybe we don't need a new name. Maybe a tagline on the website is enough. If we all understand that federation == cooperative. -
DJ Dougernaut (douglasawh)'s status on Wednesday, 24-Apr-2013 12:47:43 EDT
DJ Dougernaut
@marxistvegan a rose, by any other name, is still as sweet (but if you don't call it a rose no one will know what the fuck you are talking about. Maybe that's where we are now) -
DJ Dougernaut (douglasawh)'s status on Wednesday, 24-Apr-2013 12:46:44 EDT
DJ Dougernaut
@marxistvegan maybe it would be more clear to people what we did if we changed the name. I like the concept of federation but I don't see that as fundamentally different than a cooperative. Cooperative just sounds more centralized to me and I dislike that concept. -
DJ Dougernaut (douglasawh)'s status on Wednesday, 24-Apr-2013 12:40:23 EDT
DJ Dougernaut
I also don't think following the Mayfirst model necessarily changes anything except we need to figure out how we offer any editing/hosting/etc services because right now we don't have the means for that. -
DJ Dougernaut (douglasawh)'s status on Wednesday, 24-Apr-2013 12:37:06 EDT
DJ Dougernaut
I'm fine following the Mayfirst model, but that doesn't change the goals of Music Manumit. -
DJ Dougernaut (douglasawh)'s status on Wednesday, 24-Apr-2013 12:36:21 EDT
DJ Dougernaut
I have suggested additional help and funds in the past, but you, as the Cyberunions rep, don't want that. It's ok that Cyberunions and Music Manumit have different goals, but you need to tell me what you want. -
DJ Dougernaut (douglasawh)'s status on Wednesday, 24-Apr-2013 12:35:21 EDT
DJ Dougernaut
When we have more people join, that too is what NEF should be doing. To me this is very simple. I don't know how else to articulate it. This is not about NEF. This is about the NEF members. The problem is I don't know what Cyberunions needs. Once I know that, I can help build it. -
DJ Dougernaut (douglasawh)'s status on Wednesday, 24-Apr-2013 12:34:52 EDT
DJ Dougernaut
If you have no intentions to grow what Cyberunions is doing, then I don't know what to tell you. NEF should be an extension of that. So, you tell me. What do you want NEF to do for Cyberunions? That is what NEF should be doing. -
DJ Dougernaut (douglasawh)'s status on Wednesday, 24-Apr-2013 12:13:33 EDT
DJ Dougernaut
not every Conservancy project is trying to solve the same problem, so I don't see why every NEF project need be trying to solve the same problem. -
DJ Dougernaut (douglasawh)'s status on Wednesday, 24-Apr-2013 12:12:01 EDT
DJ Dougernaut
even if Tom is too lazy to put the work in that is needed to make that a reality. -
DJ Dougernaut (douglasawh)'s status on Wednesday, 24-Apr-2013 12:11:26 EDT
DJ Dougernaut
wanting to fund Creative Commons musicians actually predates Music Manumit in Tom and I's discussions by more than a year. -
DJ Dougernaut (douglasawh)'s status on Wednesday, 24-Apr-2013 12:10:44 EDT
DJ Dougernaut
NEF, from Music Manumit's point of view, is trying to put on Creative Commons music shows. Once we have money to do that, we'll look bigger. I don't know what Cyberunions is trying to do. You tell me. -
DJ Dougernaut (douglasawh)'s status on Wednesday, 24-Apr-2013 12:09:41 EDT
DJ Dougernaut
I think you are right to look at the big picture and think money isn't going to change the world, but I've got to have something to work on over the summer. -
DJ Dougernaut (douglasawh)'s status on Wednesday, 24-Apr-2013 12:08:22 EDT
DJ Dougernaut
same with Wendy's friends, about 90% of which are surgeons, anesthesiologists or dermatologists (which are some of the highest-earning physicians) -
DJ Dougernaut (douglasawh)'s status on Wednesday, 24-Apr-2013 12:07:09 EDT
DJ Dougernaut
which, means they love what you are doing in an indirect sense, even though they don't know you.
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