Notices tagged with freesoftware, page 60
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lxoliva (lxoliva)'s status on Wednesday, 22-Aug-2012 15:30:47 EDT lxoliva
@kr428 why are you trying to argue I shouldn't be entitled to choose using a scripting interface when it makes sense to me? -
kr428 (kr428)'s status on Wednesday, 22-Aug-2012 15:22:17 EDT kr428
("expect" even...) -
kr428 (kr428)'s status on Wednesday, 22-Aug-2012 15:21:57 EDT kr428
@lxoliva ... using _any_ kind of software for that. ;) -
kr428 (kr428)'s status on Wednesday, 22-Aug-2012 15:21:44 EDT kr428
@lxoliva ... our end users still _except_ the medium to be ejected using the hardware button on the CD drive. No one would bother ... -
kr428 (kr428)'s status on Wednesday, 22-Aug-2012 15:20:15 EDT kr428
Yes. YES! That's the very point. Appropriate tasks for the CLI. But not CLI for _everything_. Allow tasks to be GUI-only for good reason. ;) -
zoowar (zoowar)'s status on Wednesday, 22-Aug-2012 15:13:19 EDT zoowar
Easy tasks for siri. Don't ignore that you send those signal to your hand as you move the mouse. -
lxoliva (lxoliva)'s status on Wednesday, 22-Aug-2012 15:13:09 EDT lxoliva
@kr428 I challenge the latter limitation; I saw a former GUI-only user's eyes shine as he first ejected a CD from the cmd line :-) -
kr428 (kr428)'s status on Wednesday, 22-Aug-2012 15:04:47 EDT kr428
@lxoliva ... seems pointless. That's what I meant: CLI _is_ powerful and a good tool... to a very certain user group. ;) -
lxoliva (lxoliva)'s status on Wednesday, 22-Aug-2012 15:04:09 EDT lxoliva
@kr428 now, when I write “scriptability” I mean using an interpreted rather than compiled language; think e.g. python, not just sh -
kr428 (kr428)'s status on Wednesday, 22-Aug-2012 15:02:35 EDT kr428
@lxoliva ... where, to people used to working with visual media (i.e. old-fashioned light boxes), operating image processing with text ... -
robmyers (robmyers)'s status on Wednesday, 22-Aug-2012 15:02:01 EDT robmyers
@lxoliva I think it's more about convenience. Ironically, the FLOSS Manuals CLI book introduction uses image editing as an example :-) -
kr428 (kr428)'s status on Wednesday, 22-Aug-2012 15:02:01 EDT kr428
@lxoliva No, definitely not. But it's a matter of use cases. And of user expectations. CLI seems obvious to tech savvy folks... -
kr428 (kr428)'s status on Wednesday, 22-Aug-2012 14:59:04 EDT kr428
Siri, crop that image so the predominant image element is exactly where I want it and adapt the colors to how the image feels! ? ;) -
lxoliva (lxoliva)'s status on Wednesday, 22-Aug-2012 14:58:01 EDT lxoliva
@kr428 under that light, your argument seems to come across as “there are cases in which users *must not* be offered scriptability” -
lxoliva (lxoliva)'s status on Wednesday, 22-Aug-2012 14:56:13 EDT lxoliva
@kr428 don't narrow scriptability to CLI! all graphical programs are written (scripted) in a programming language -
zoowar (zoowar)'s status on Wednesday, 22-Aug-2012 14:55:46 EDT zoowar
Siri, find all the convex hulls for green areas in the image. Siri, how many are there. Siri combine the tress smallest. -
kr428 (kr428)'s status on Wednesday, 22-Aug-2012 14:52:43 EDT kr428
@lxoliva Yes. Same as I keep our servers running just like that. Yet I never would want to use CLI for imaging. It's not a golden hammer. ;) -
kr428 (kr428)'s status on Wednesday, 22-Aug-2012 14:52:09 EDT kr428
You _don't_ use Siri for image processing (that's where we started), do you? ;) -
zoowar (zoowar)'s status on Wednesday, 22-Aug-2012 14:50:53 EDT zoowar
Siri, are you a "touch operated device" evolved? Siri, can you proxy CLI? Yes and yes. -
lxoliva (lxoliva)'s status on Wednesday, 22-Aug-2012 14:46:52 EDT lxoliva
@kr428 have I ever told you how much I love to ssh from laptop to phone and send SMSes and make calls from within emacs? ;-)