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bobjonkman: bobjonkman favorited something by lnxw48a1: https://500ish.com/mastodon-brought-a-protocol-to-a-product-fight-ba9fda767c6a #Medium link; don't be surprised if it does weird things before showing you the article. "Mastodon brought a protocol to a product fight" > Yes, yes, the network is under immense strain as people flee the Elon strain infecting Twitter. But come on, there are folks who really believe this is going to replace, or even stand alongside Twitter, as a massively scaled social network? I call bullshit. While it’s impressive that millions of users have apparently given Mastodon a try, the product is far too slapdash and clunky to keep folks engaged. A lump of coal. No, it isn't meant to be a #Twitter replacement. Keep your Twitter account until you no longer want it--or the company closes and the site shuts down--you can use Mastodon alongside Twitter. And the #Fediverse networks are much more than just #Mastodon. Don't think you have experienced the network and all it has to offer if all you've done is briefly tried to use Mastodon, because you haven't experienced it. > I’ve somehow avoided signing up for the service up until now. Largely because signing up was and is so comically obtuse — pick your server everyone, hope you choose wisely! Have you not used e-mail? It works the same way. You pick a server, such as Gmail or Outlook dot com, and sign up. Please tell me you realize that the people you communicate with are not all on the same e-mail service that you use. > But, but, it’s not a product, it’s a protocol. Yeah, that’s a nice thing to say. And to believe in. But I truly believe the ship has sadly sailed for such idealism in this space. Jack Dorsey can talk about how this should have been what Twitter was from the get go until he’s bluesky in the face. It’s just not going to happen. And he’s more to blame for that than most everyone else. As is he for the Elon element of this current equation. But that’s a different story. Okay, so how about this story: Twitter has only been profitable two or three years of its entire history. Since it started, it has existed by burning through investors' funds. Eventually, with or without Elon Musk's ownership, that runs out. Without such funding, their corporate-centralized ( #corpocentric ) model cannot exist very long. And same for their centralized competitors, such as Post.news, Gab, Parler, and so on. What is left is either #federated or #peer-to-peer approaches, where no single entity is responsible for funding and managing the entire network. So whether it is the #Fediverse ( with #ActivityPub and #OStatus and their successors ) & the Federation ( with #Diaspora ) or #Bluesky, or #Twister, or #NOSTR, the eventual future of #socnets is #decentralized, if not entirely peer-to-peer unless a national government takes over Facebook and Twitter in order to provide effectively unlimited resources. It is the protocol that makes it possible for thousands or millions of instances to displace and replace one big centralized instance. 1/2
bobjonkman's status on Thursday, 05-Jan-2023 15:30:59 EST
bobjonkman favorited something by lnxw48a1: https://500ish.com/mastodon-brought-a-protocol-to-a-product-fight-ba9fda767c6a #Medium link; don't be surprised if it does weird things before showing you the article. "Mastodon brought a protocol to a product fight" > Yes, yes, the network is under immense strain as people flee the Elon strain infecting Twitter. But come on, there are folks who really believe this is going to replace, or even stand alongside Twitter, as a massively scaled social network? I call bullshit. While it’s impressive that millions of users have apparently given Mastodon a try, the product is far too slapdash and clunky to keep folks engaged. A lump of coal. No, it isn't meant to be a #Twitter replacement. Keep your Twitter account until you no longer want it--or the company closes and the site shuts down--you can use Mastodon alongside Twitter. And the #Fediverse networks are much more than just #Mastodon. Don't think you have experienced the network and all it has to offer if all you've done is briefly tried to use Mastodon, because you haven't experienced it. > I’ve somehow avoided signing up for the service up until now. Largely because signing up was and is so comically obtuse — pick your server everyone, hope you choose wisely! Have you not used e-mail? It works the same way. You pick a server, such as Gmail or Outlook dot com, and sign up. Please tell me you realize that the people you communicate with are not all on the same e-mail service that you use. > But, but, it’s not a product, it’s a protocol. Yeah, that’s a nice thing to say. And to believe in. But I truly believe the ship has sadly sailed for such idealism in this space. Jack Dorsey can talk about how this should have been what Twitter was from the get go until he’s bluesky in the face. It’s just not going to happen. And he’s more to blame for that than most everyone else. As is he for the Elon element of this current equation. But that’s a different story. Okay, so how about this story: Twitter has only been profitable two or three years of its entire history. Since it started, it has existed by burning through investors' funds. Eventually, with or without Elon Musk's ownership, that runs out. Without such funding, their corporate-centralized ( #corpocentric ) model cannot exist very long. And same for their centralized competitors, such as Post.news, Gab, Parler, and so on. What is left is either #federated or #peer-to-peer approaches, where no single entity is responsible for funding and managing the entire network. So whether it is the #Fediverse ( with #ActivityPub and #OStatus and their successors ) & the Federation ( with #Diaspora ) or #Bluesky, or #Twister, or #NOSTR, the eventual future of #socnets is #decentralized, if not entirely peer-to-peer unless a national government takes over Facebook and Twitter in order to provide effectively unlimited resources. It is the protocol that makes it possible for thousands or millions of instances to displace and replace one big centralized instance. 1/2
bobjonkman: RT @lnxw48a1 http://status.hackerposse.com/url/24031 #Medium link; don't be surprised if it does weird things before showing you the article. "Mastodon brought a protocol to a product fight" > Yes, yes, the network is under immense strain as people flee the Elon strain infecting Twitter. But come on, there are folks who really believe this is going to replace, or even stand a https://gs.jonkman.ca/notice/1107876
bobjonkman's status on Thursday, 05-Jan-2023 15:30:53 EST
RT @lnxw48a1 http://status.hackerposse.com/url/24031 #Medium link; don't be surprised if it does weird things before showing you the article. "Mastodon brought a protocol to a product fight" > Yes, yes, the network is under immense strain as people flee the Elon strain infecting Twitter. But come on, there are folks who really believe this is going to replace, or even stand a…
lnxw48a1: http://status.hackerposse.com/url/24031 #Medium link; don't be surprised if it does weird things before showing you the article. "Mastodon brought a protocol to a product fight" > Yes, yes, the network is under immense strain as people flee the Elon strain infecting Twitter. But come on, there are folks who really believe this is going to replace, or even stand alongside Twitt https://nu.federati.net/notice/3418994
lnxw48a1's status on Wednesday, 28-Dec-2022 21:20:57 EST
http://status.hackerposse.com/url/24031 #Medium link; don't be surprised if it does weird things before showing you the article. "Mastodon brought a protocol to a product fight" > Yes, yes, the network is under immense strain as people flee the Elon strain infecting Twitter. But come on, there are folks who really believe this is going to replace, or even stand alongside Twitt…
bobjonkman: I've never played #Minecraft - Is this #Federated software? Is it #FreeSoftware? If so, how can Microsoft control what's happening on someone's private server? Even if such code existed in a #FreeSoftware application, I would have thought there'd be a fork that eliminates that external control. It's time for that now. But if #Minecraft isn't #FreeSoftware aka Free/Libre Open Sou https://gs.jonkman.ca/notice/1101138
bobjonkman's status on Sunday, 26-Jun-2022 18:52:29 EDT
I've never played #Minecraft - Is this #Federated software? Is it #FreeSoftware? If so, how can Microsoft control what's happening on someone's private server? Even if such code existed in a #FreeSoftware application, I would have thought there'd be a fork that eliminates that external control. It's time for that now. But if #Minecraft isn't #FreeSoftware aka Free/Libre Open Sou…
rozzin: rozzin favorited something by lnxw48a1: @sim In other words, we often intentionally try to look like the #corpocentric networks and hide the things that make this one different. Then we are caught off-guard when users (especially new users, but sometimes people who have been around for a year or two) show ignorance about the fundamental differences inherent a #federated network. We need to make it clear, from the beg…
rozzin's status on Monday, 14-Dec-2020 12:48:59 EST
rozzin favorited something by lnxw48a1: @sim In other words, we often intentionally try to look like the #corpocentric networks and hide the things that make this one different. Then we are caught off-guard when users (especially new users, but sometimes people who have been around for a year or two) show ignorance about the fundamental differences inherent a #federated network. We need to make it clear, from the beg…
lnxw48a1: An article I recently read talked about the copyright battles of the late 1990s as instructive to what #decentralized, #federated and #peer-to-peer networks will face if and when we become threatening to the big #corpocentric networks. I think it is something we need to think about. Unfortunately, some parts of the #Fediverse (primarily, but not exclusively #Mastodon) have mar https://nu.federati.net/notice/3325338
lnxw48a1's status on Thursday, 23-Jul-2020 14:43:40 EDT
An article I recently read talked about the copyright battles of the late 1990s as instructive to what #decentralized, #federated and #peer-to-peer networks will face if and when we become threatening to the big #corpocentric networks. I think it is something we need to think about. Unfortunately, some parts of the #Fediverse (primarily, but not exclusively #Mastodon) have mar…
lnxw48a1: @sim In other words, we often intentionally try to look like the #corpocentric networks and hide the things that make this one different. Then we are caught off-guard when users (especially new users, but sometimes people who have been around for a year or two) show ignorance about the fundamental differences inherent a #federated network. We need to make it clear, from the beg https://nu.federati.net/notice/3229878
lnxw48a1's status on Friday, 10-Jan-2020 14:23:20 EST
@sim In other words, we often intentionally try to look like the #corpocentric networks and hide the things that make this one different. Then we are caught off-guard when users (especially new users, but sometimes people who have been around for a year or two) show ignorance about the fundamental differences inherent a #federated network. We need to make it clear, from the beg…
lnxw48a1: http://status.hackerposse.com/url/19580 This is worth a read. This person has spent some time thinking about these issues. I'm not saying his/her conclusions are "the right" conclusions or that he/she has discovered all the potential issues. But when we discuss these topics, we need to have a (shared) starting point, where everyone understands what particular terms mean. #Fede https://nu.federati.net/notice/3219363
lnxw48a1's status on Wednesday, 25-Dec-2019 21:42:55 EST
http://status.hackerposse.com/url/19580 This is worth a read. This person has spent some time thinking about these issues. I'm not saying his/her conclusions are "the right" conclusions or that he/she has discovered all the potential issues. But when we discuss these topics, we need to have a (shared) starting point, where everyone understands what particular terms mean. #Fede…
bobjonkmanformer: The HN discussion perpetuates the usual misunderstanding of a #Federated network. People claim they must have accounts on multiple instances in order to follow conversations there. But a person really needs only one account on one instance because they can follow accounts on other instances *because Federation*! https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14157801
bobjonkmanformer's status on Thursday, 20-Apr-2017 23:20:15 EDT
The HN discussion perpetuates the usual misunderstanding of a #Federated network. People claim they must have accounts on multiple instances in order to follow conversations there. But a person really needs only one account on one instance because they can follow accounts on other instances *because Federation*! https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14157801
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lnxw48: #unifederate: When a site or service is theoretically #federated, but lacks any functioning peers with which to make theory into reality.
lnxw48's status on Monday, 21-Nov-2016 23:09:10 EST
#unifederate: When a site or service is theoretically #federated, but lacks any functioning peers with which to make theory into reality.
lnxw48: @gargron It's complicated. Pump has a few features, such as ability to restrict recipients and a good chunk of former StatusNet users (from before the #bifurcation into two incompatible #federated networks).
lnxw48's status on Friday, 11-Nov-2016 11:15:11 EST
@gargron It's complicated. Pump has a few features, such as ability to restrict recipients and a good chunk of former StatusNet users (from before the #bifurcation into two incompatible #federated networks).
roland: @maiyannah @moonman @lnxw48 no need, it will "defeat" itself later on (by being sold on low price). As long as #federation remains compatible between all social-network software ( !gnusocial !diaspora #friendica and all the others) we can be a good alternative to those bloated #corporate islands. that is what makes the !fediverse good: #open-source and #federated. :-)
roland's status on Monday, 10-Oct-2016 03:31:34 EDT
@maiyannah @moonman @lnxw48 no need, it will "defeat" itself later on (by being sold on low price). As long as #federation remains compatible between all social-network software ( !gnusocial !diaspora #friendica and all the others) we can be a good alternative to those bloated #corporate islands. that is what makes the !fediverse good: #open-source and #federated. :-)
rozzin: So, #GoogleTalk still works and is still #federated #XMPP, but is an #island WRT other #Google services: there are no lines of direct communication with the Google mainland, despite being able to still see the lights on in the distance sometimes.
rozzin's status on Thursday, 08-Sep-2016 16:59:25 EDT
So, #GoogleTalk still works and is still #federated #XMPP, but is an #island WRT other #Google services: there are no lines of direct communication with the Google mainland, despite being able to still see the lights on in the distance sometimes.
lnxw48: Another example of why one should not let #corpocentric sites be the main locus of one's postings. Best to !selfhost (or at least use #federated sites) and to use centralized sites only to link to your content posted elsewhere. http://url.federati.net/hXUrX
lnxw48's status on Wednesday, 10-Aug-2016 19:18:29 EDT
Another example of why one should not let #corpocentric sites be the main locus of one's postings. Best to !selfhost (or at least use #federated sites) and to use centralized sites only to link to your content posted elsewhere. http://url.federati.net/hXUrX
mcscx: @jaideneverett Welcome :) !GNUsocial is like Twitter, but #non-commercial and #federated. The servers are run by hobbyists and #activists
mcscx's status on Saturday, 24-Oct-2015 08:32:40 EDT
@jaideneverett Welcome :) !GNUsocial is like Twitter, but #non-commercial and #federated. The servers are run by hobbyists and #activists
lnxw48: Welcome @geniusmusing to the !fediverse. GM is an active user of another #federated network and is now joining !gnusocial as well.
lnxw48's status on Sunday, 18-Oct-2015 18:42:58 EDT
Welcome @geniusmusing to the !fediverse. GM is an active user of another #federated network and is now joining !gnusocial as well.
bobjonkmanformer: Another #Federated #secure messaging tool: https://ring.cx/ Anyone tried this yet?
bobjonkmanformer's status on Saturday, 10-Oct-2015 13:59:17 EDT
Another #Federated #secure messaging tool: https://ring.cx/ Anyone tried this yet?
mcscx: @deavmi afaik the #deleted posts are a new !gnusocial feature for #federated deleting
mcscx's status on Sunday, 02-Aug-2015 16:36:24 EDT
@deavmi afaik the #deleted posts are a new !gnusocial feature for #federated deleting
bobjonkmanformer: Of course, I dread the day that someone takes jonkman.ca Can't !selfhost Domain Name Services -- we need an independent, #Federated Domain Name Service!
bobjonkmanformer's status on Tuesday, 23-Jun-2015 21:22:57 EDT
Of course, I dread the day that someone takes jonkman.ca Can't !selfhost Domain Name Services -- we need an independent, #Federated Domain Name Service!
lnxw48: @moshpirit What do you think about the #newhere tag, as used on !Diaspora? If it helps people integrate more easily into the #federated network, maybe we need to do something similar for !gnusocial.
lnxw48's status on Sunday, 05-Apr-2015 17:41:10 EDT
@moshpirit What do you think about the #newhere tag, as used on !Diaspora? If it helps people integrate more easily into the #federated network, maybe we need to do something similar for !gnusocial.
lnxw48: I love this !sn / !gnusocial network. Nowhere else have I seen such heated disagreements as we've had recently without "I hate you and I never want to hear from you again." Maybe we attract a different crowd from o…
lnxw48's status on Wednesday, 01-Apr-2015 23:29:10 EDT
I love this !sn / !gnusocial network. Nowhere else have I seen such heated disagreements as we've had recently without "I hate you and I never want to hear from you again." Maybe we attract a different crowd from o…
chimo: @pztrn I hope the after-life is #federated :)
chimo's status on Tuesday, 17-Mar-2015 11:46:51 EDT
@pztrn I hope the after-life is #federated :)
lnxw48: @roland @rolanddiaspora Unfortunately, JD has too many users. They use #Amazon #cloud because it'd be too expensive to host any other way. For !Diaspora, like most #federated networks, keeping a node's operating costs under control depends on distributing the hosting costs among many #podmins / admins who host or !selfhost themselves and possibly a limited number of other users.
lnxw48's status on Saturday, 28-Feb-2015 20:03:54 EST
@roland @rolanddiaspora Unfortunately, JD has too many users. They use #Amazon #cloud because it'd be too expensive to host any other way. For !Diaspora, like most #federated networks, keeping a node's operating costs under control depends on distributing the hosting costs among many #podmins / admins who host or !selfhost themselves and possibly a limited number of other users.
bobjonkmanformer: @pskosinski Why, another #federated server in the !Fediverse, of course!
bobjonkmanformer's status on Friday, 05-Dec-2014 19:00:01 EST
@pskosinski Why, another #federated server in the !Fediverse, of course!
lnxw48: Long term, I’m planning to completely extricate myself (personal accounts) from all parts of the #Lockiverse. #Federated and/or !selfhost ed or nothing.
lnxw48's status on Wednesday, 10-Sep-2014 18:39:58 EDT
Long term, I’m planning to completely extricate myself (personal accounts) from all parts of the #Lockiverse. #Federated and/or !selfhost ed or nothing.
lnxw48: Today is the day, the global #XMPP #federated network (public servers) now requires encryption server-to-server and server-to-client. !security !xmpp
lnxw48's status on Monday, 19-May-2014 04:29:27 EDT
Today is the day, the global #XMPP #federated network (public servers) now requires encryption server-to-server and server-to-client. !security !xmpp
erkanyilmaz: RT @b9AcE #StatusNet, being twitter-like but #federated and open source would be a better choice. If tweeps wouldn't miss the censorship... RT ‏@zeynep "Let's migrate to #Weibo.com", tweep jokes in Turkey. RT @ozgurmumcu Ben dedim çin twitter'ı weibo'ya hicret edelim diye
erkanyilmaz's status on Thursday, 20-Mar-2014 20:41:04 EDT
RT @b9AcE #StatusNet, being twitter-like but #federated and open source would be a better choice. If tweeps wouldn't miss the censorship... RT ‏@zeynep "Let's migrate to #Weibo.com", tweep jokes in Turkey. RT @ozgurmumcu Ben dedim çin twitter'ı weibo'ya hicret edelim diye
erkanyilmaz: RT @lnxw48 @jacook @erkanyilmaz Or even better, real #interfederation, so people can use whichever #federated #socnet appeals to them.
erkanyilmaz's status on Wednesday, 19-Feb-2014 04:23:30 EST
RT @lnxw48 @jacook @erkanyilmaz Or even better, real #interfederation, so people can use whichever #federated #socnet appeals to them.
lnxw48: @jacook @erkanyilmaz Or even better, real #interfederation, so people can use whichever #federated #socnet appeals to them.
lnxw48's status on Monday, 17-Feb-2014 19:36:30 EST
@jacook @erkanyilmaz Or even better, real #interfederation, so people can use whichever #federated #socnet appeals to them.
erkanyilmaz: @carlopiana@status.piana.eu happy birthday! you're running 3 years already your #federated instance
erkanyilmaz's status on Sunday, 19-Jan-2014 21:18:35 EST
@carlopiana@status.piana.eu happy birthday! you're running 3 years already your #federated instance
erkanyilmaz: @eric ... and congrats for your >1000 dents on your #federated statusnet :-)
erkanyilmaz's status on Tuesday, 14-Jan-2014 14:30:40 EST
@eric ... and congrats for your >1000 dents on your #federated statusnet :-)
erkanyilmaz: short observation (1): 1-year old copies of the #English dents are in general available, but the #German dents are not so lucky :-( Though, this will be better from now on, since there are some #federated statusnet servers with German speakers out there now. (1) 1 week long commenting on 1-year old dents, more to come
erkanyilmaz's status on Monday, 06-Jan-2014 15:07:43 EST
short observation (1): 1-year old copies of the #English dents are in general available, but the #German dents are not so lucky :-( Though, this will be better from now on, since there are some #federated statusnet servers with German speakers out there now. (1) 1 week long commenting on 1-year old dents, more to come
erkanyilmaz: 1 year ago: seems I was helping someone with problems on his #federated SN instance
erkanyilmaz's status on Wednesday, 01-Jan-2014 15:44:27 EST
1 year ago: seems I was helping someone with problems on his #federated SN instance
erkanyilmaz: "Then more new SN instances came up, groups were rebuilt and more people joined the #federated network again."
erkanyilmaz's status on Saturday, 21-Dec-2013 07:41:54 EST
"Then more new SN instances came up, groups were rebuilt and more people joined the #federated network again."
douglasawh: RT @lnxwalt280 @jimmorgan I've tried most #federated networks, from #StatusNet to #RStatus to #OneSocialWeb to #Diaspora, #Friendica, #Appleseed, #BuddyCloud, and #PumpIO. Very few of them realize that users should be able to use one or two sites to interact with *all* others.
douglasawh's status on Sunday, 11-Aug-2013 22:27:27 EDT
RT @lnxwalt280 @jimmorgan I've tried most #federated networks, from #StatusNet to #RStatus to #OneSocialWeb to #Diaspora, #Friendica, #Appleseed, #BuddyCloud, and #PumpIO. Very few of them realize that users should be able to use one or two sites to interact with *all* others.
lnxwalt280: @jimmorgan I've tried most #federated networks, from #StatusNet to #RStatus to #OneSocialWeb to #Diaspora, #Friendica, #Appleseed, #BuddyCloud, and #PumpIO. Very few of them realize that users should be able to use one or two sites to interact with *all* others.
lnxwalt280's status on Sunday, 11-Aug-2013 11:48:54 EDT
@jimmorgan I've tried most #federated networks, from #StatusNet to #RStatus to #OneSocialWeb to #Diaspora, #Friendica, #Appleseed, #BuddyCloud, and #PumpIO. Very few of them realize that users should be able to use one or two sites to interact with *all* others.
bobjonkmanformer: I meant to ♻ http://sn.jonkman.ca/url/61 We need a #federated !ypots group, stat! !federati !fedgroups
bobjonkmanformer's status on Tuesday, 04-Jun-2013 21:04:56 EDT
I meant to ♻ http://sn.jonkman.ca/url/61 We need a #federated !ypots group, stat! !federati !fedgroups
lnxwalt: @rozzin I hope he also keeps a copy and hosts on a #federated !statusnet instance. Both networks love @x11r5.
lnxwalt's status on Tuesday, 04-Jun-2013 14:56:21 EDT
@rozzin I hope he also keeps a copy and hosts on a #federated !statusnet instance. Both networks love @x11r5.
erkanyilmaz: When you somehow find those #federated ones, please drop me a line, so I can add them to the wiki page. Thank you
erkanyilmaz's status on Sunday, 30-Dec-2012 14:12:44 EST
When you somehow find those #federated ones, please drop me a line, so I can add them to the wiki page. Thank you
erkanyilmaz: list of #federated !statusnet instances: 223 current stats: web server used: 80% #apache - 13% #nginx #language: 68% e…
erkanyilmaz's status on Saturday, 29-Dec-2012 15:27:23 EST
list of #federated !statusnet instances: 223 current stats: web server used: 80% #apache - 13% #nginx #language: 68% e…
erkanyilmaz: anyone else got feeling on his #federated server dents from #statusnet group not coming ?
erkanyilmaz's status on Saturday, 24-Nov-2012 13:19:16 EST
anyone else got feeling on his #federated server dents from #statusnet group not coming ?
erkanyilmaz: anyone else did not get on his #federated server dents lately from #statusnet group ?
erkanyilmaz's status on Saturday, 24-Nov-2012 13:18:03 EST
anyone else did not get on his #federated server dents lately from #statusnet group ?
zack: @oberger: one is #distributed , the other is #federated | !notatroll , but /me hides nonetheless, just #tobeonthesafeside
zack's status on Tuesday, 16-Oct-2012 16:56:03 EDT
@oberger: one is #distributed , the other is #federated | !notatroll , but /me hides nonetheless, just #tobeonthesafeside
jpope: @mvdan Shall I unsub from your identi.ca profile now that you’ve #federated?
jpope's status on Thursday, 31-May-2012 11:49:56 EDT
@mvdan Shall I unsub from your identi.ca profile now that you’ve #federated?