@gameragodzilla The problem here is when democracy is subverted, such as what we found out regarding Bernie Sanders' nomination run.  I'm not a fan of Sanders at all really, but I am sympathetic to how corrupt things were to push him down.  At the same time, he probably could have made quite a run as an independent and didn't, so he shares some blame there also.  But my overarching point, is I think it's entirely permissible not to accept a result that is undemocratic, such as Hillary winning the nomination through corrupt means.

Trump didn't fix the election though, and there's been no evidence of such tampering, so the Democrats need to do some soul-searching.

Seems they'd rather burn down the place than accept that they have some of the blame though :/