@clacke@libranet.de@libranet.de We have some job training schools that fit that description (unproductive waste of money), and we also many degree-granting institutions (colleges and universities) that also fit that description. It got worse after we told every young high school student that they had to earn a degree or they'd be stuck working at McDonald's for minimum wage. We have so many degree-holders working in such places that I actually saw a Taco Bell with a sign looking for a shift leader for about $2 above minwage and requiring at least a B.A. degree or don't bother applying.