Final note for today: I think I've *finally* solved my internet connection problems (with wicd on Ubuntu): When I arrived in Amsterdam the line connection worked perfectly, not a beep from the WiFi connection, and now back in Groningen I got the line connection working (and seemingly stable) when I arrived, and also not a meep from WiFi! I think the crucial option is to NOT set any of the possible WiFi connections to "Automatically connect" and make sure the line connection is set to "Default". (What confused the heck out of me is that at first I had *both* Line and WiFi connections on - but now they are mutually exclusive. So if WiFi is set to 'Automatically connect" it will take over as soon as it can, even from a#networking # # - and with that happy finding i say goodnight !tzaf to you all !fediverse !tempfix