excerpt from chat: moi: The death of #wikiversity for me came when the #freedom was attacked, I don't need a system where I am not free. Though I was not attacked or so, since I had most of the time a different status, but it showed me: what can happen to them can happen to #anyone. other: but it seams to me that en.wv lives somehow moi: that's just #mindless people or people who just want #traffic to their stuff. in my view nothing changed, because control of the #data lies within the #WMF