ISTR that during an online chat for developers to plan the future of OO, Oracle moderators said, essentially, that anyone in the chat who was not part of Oracle didn't have Oracle's best interests in mind, and please leave the chat. Rather a misunderstanding of the motivations of a group of global, volunteer contributing developers. So those developers left, and created LO, and that left the OO project somewhat high and dry. But Sun had made a deal with IBM to supply OO, and now that Oracle couldn't maintain that contract it was handed over to the Apache Foundation so that the OO project would continue to have a future and the IBM contract could be fulfilled. I did read the logs of that online chat, but wasn't privvy to the subsquent machinations that followed. @lnxw48a1 !libreoffice