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Mark (EC,IN)
Posted 12/12/2008 22:08 (#532721)
Subject: Amish Forklift/Tractors



Schlegel Farms, Hagerstown Indiana
There was a post awhile back about Amish tractors. It talked about fast road speeds the Amish had in there tractors, non of these are fast....more just strange looking. Did see some good wheel speeds on a 4320 JD one day on a glare of ice (kind of funny). A lot of these tractors have had cabs cut off.

The 706 is being scraped, the 1456, and the 66 series are in the shop for overhauls. Non of the Amish farmers in this area are mechanical....just run it till it drops.

Close-up of the 1456 shows that there are layers of rubber between the wheel and the steel rim to absorb shock...the 66 just rides on pure steel.

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Mark (EC,IN)
Posted 12/12/2008 22:11 (#532727 - in reply to #532721)
Subject: Sorry...



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School Of Hard Knock
Posted 12/12/2008 23:20 (#532823 - in reply to #532727)
Subject: Photos,I asume cell phone photos,


just a tish NE of central ND
How did you get "inside" to get the photos ? Or dont they care if you take pictures?Those photos look like a step back in time about 80-90 years.It is obveious that the steel wheels beat the HE11 out of the tractors.

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cenpafarm
Posted 12/12/2008 22:15 (#532731 - in reply to #532721)
Subject: Re: Amish Forklift/Tractors


Lewisburg, PA
Very common here in central PA, many a good IH has met its match with a black hat!!!
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srsu99
Posted 12/12/2008 22:34 (#532758 - in reply to #532731)
Subject: Re: Amish Forklift/Tractors


Central / West Texas
are those wheels made by them or are they available to buy? Do they have something against rubber?
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Topshot
Posted 12/12/2008 23:00 (#532802 - in reply to #532758)
Subject: Re: Amish Forklift/Tractors


Near Richmond, IN
I don't know about rubber, but rubbers!
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msb
Posted 12/12/2008 23:08 (#532810 - in reply to #532758)
Subject: Re: Amish Forklift/Tractors


Lapel, In
The ones that I am familiar with don't believe in riding on air. Me ? I ride on a seat. And I sometimes wear a Mutt and Jeff style black hat. lol.

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Grow
Posted 12/12/2008 23:20 (#532824 - in reply to #532721)
Subject: Re: Amish Forklift/Tractors


Amish ag practices are a bad reflection on US ag.
The Amish folk are stuck in a historic time warp as far as I see and I'm sorry for the insult if you are one, but it's a fact.
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Hay Wilson in TX
Posted 12/13/2008 06:47 (#532957 - in reply to #532824)
Subject: Re: Amish Forklift/Tractors



Little River, TX
They are not supposed to be TIED to unbelievers. Therefor no electrical wires coming in nor hooking to a public water system.

Other than that they do a good job of farming, make a living for their families, do not use welfare or government payments, pay their taxes. Mostly they raise their kids to have good habits and upstanding morals.
What is there to not admire with their unique ways.
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NEMOScott
Posted 12/13/2008 08:57 (#533014 - in reply to #532824)
Subject: Re: Amish Forklift/Tractors


Callao, Missouri
Thats your opinion and their opinion is probably that you're going to h_ll for being so worldly.

For the good of my own skin I hope both of you are wrong.

Scott
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patriotsprayer
Posted 12/13/2008 11:07 (#533140 - in reply to #532824)
Subject: Re: Amish Forklift/Tractors


Southeastern, PA. 30 miles west of Phila
Grow: Could you explain to me what you mean by "Amish ag practices are a bad reflection on US Ag"?

I know many Amish farmers who do what I consider a first class job with farming.

Some Amish guys are dedicated no-tillers using the lastest chemicals and GMO-tratied corn.

Some Amish guys are certified organic and have learned how to produce corn and alfalfa that rivals or exceeds the production of the non-organic counterparts.

Some Amish guys are certified organic and have there entire farm under a rotational grass style management system. The profit they make per acre or per cow again rivals there non-grazier counterparts.

But then I know some Amish guys that are less than average farmers.

From my experience if you put Amish farmers into one class and non-Amish farmers in another class I believe you would find an equal percentage of excellent, average and poor farmers in both groups.

I was not offended by your statement. Just would like some clarification, also felt like the Amish farmers needed some defense since they will probably never participate on a web-based discussion group like this......

Merlin
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johns_79
Posted 12/13/2008 00:06 (#532864 - in reply to #532721)
Subject: Re: Amish Forklift/Tractors


Windom, MN
I toured an amish farm in PA a few years ago and was surprized. I always thought there was no electricity or power tools. then I get there and they have a 1066 w/ steel wheels, a diesel genereator hooked to a modern dairy barn with fans running, and many things like balers with steel wheels and a small gas engine to power it. they'll pull it with a horse, but I guess it doesn't make sense to me. they had a cart on rubber wheels, and a guy asked about it. The amish farmer did not answer ther question and just kept talking about his operation. I decided he thought it was okay because it was in the barn and out of sight of the colony.
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JohnW
Posted 12/13/2008 01:49 (#532915 - in reply to #532864)
Subject: Re: Amish Forklift/Tractors


NW Washington
They have a hangup about getting electrical power from the grid. Amish cabinet shops and similar small businesses use gen-sets to get power to run their shop equipment.
I think the steel wheeled stuff may be owned by Mennonites, as they are a little more progressive than the Amish, although different Amish sects have different rules. Then there are the Hutterites, who many of the same religious believes of the Amish, but they have the best equipment money will buy.
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Topshot
Posted 12/13/2008 03:39 (#532938 - in reply to #532915)
Subject: Re: Amish Forklift/Tractors


Near Richmond, IN
The Amish around Mark and I (and they are Amish as I'm friends with several) use either air or hydraulic to power their different tools, etc. for woodworking, etc. Most have a "power plant" which is a small diesel engine belted to a jackshaft that they then belt several different things to, such as their compressor for the milk cooler, an air compressor to fill their tanks with compressed air to run everything, and if they have hydraulic powered tools, a hydraulic pump to power that. Also powers an alternator to charge the batteries for their carriages. I certainly don't understand it at all-why they don't buy electricity-but will use it. They do a lot of things I don't understand, but the ones around me are fairly nice as far as neighbors go.
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Ron..NE ILL..10/48
Posted 12/13/2008 05:59 (#532948 - in reply to #532938)
Subject: Re: Amish Forklift/Tractors..windmills



Chebanse, IL

I've never understood all their rules either. But then, I guess they don't understand what we do. But anyway, maybe with all the big windmill generator farms coming on-line in the next few yrs, they'll be able to accept air-powered electricity out of a wire?

Actually though, it does make for a clean looking operation w/no wires, poles, or transformers, I've always thought.

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Brian sepa
Posted 12/13/2008 06:17 (#532953 - in reply to #532938)
Subject: Re: Amish Forklift/Tractors



Lancaster County, Pa.

     It appears that you must have the same variety of amish that we have,  which wouldn't suprise me as many have moved out of Lancaster County and headed for places like Indiana, and Kentucky.  The pictures Mark posted could easily been snapped in a Lanc. Co shop.

 

    One thing that is happening in the amish community here is that farmland is so tight that many amish have gotten set up to manufacture sheds, gazebos, playsets, you name it.  These guys turn out an incredible amount of stuff and since they are allowed air tools (nailers, air powered saws, ec) and hard tired fork lifts they have everything they need to set up a highly efficient manufacturing system.  The amish farmer, on the other hand, is allowed the same things but they don't help him nearly as much.  The farmer is still farming like our granddaddys did while the gazebo builders have very efficient manufacturing operations.  This in turn creates some serious economic disparrity.  That could all change, however, if this economy stays in the gutter and people quit buying sheds and playsets.

      

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sckansas
Posted 12/13/2008 07:19 (#532967 - in reply to #532953)
Subject: Re: Amish Forklift/Tractors


eastern south central KS
I have been around Amish and what we call "Old order Mennonites " in Ontario, Canada as well as here in Kansas. I have great respect for them but get a kick out of what's O.K. and what isn't and how they function while following (mostly) the rules. As far as stationary engines vs. those in moving conveyances a friend of mine summed it up best..... "The Devil's O.K. as long as you have him bolted down".
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RichardJW~
Posted 12/13/2008 08:42 (#533005 - in reply to #532967)
Subject: Re: Amish Forklift/Tractors


I'm guess then that they won't be logging on to read this post :-)
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Jon S
Posted 12/13/2008 09:31 (#533052 - in reply to #532967)
Subject: Re: Amish Folk



I had some Amish folk build a few things around here. I really liked the people that I came in contact with. As it was explained to me, the ways of the Amish pretty much are about not falling to the "ways of the world." The guys that were here always had a non Amish driver transport them to and fro. Age for age, they were far more talented (skilled craftsman), and dedicated than the majority of youth I run into. Didn't complain once even though the conditions were pretty bad last winter. There was one guy (Amish) that seemed to be the operator. He was running the Cat 941 (tracks) and Bobcat 331 (tracks) which was probably okay. I did have to poke some fun at him when he asked if he could use the skid loader. I said, "Don't you dare let the air out of those tires." lol.

Satan is referred to as "the prince of the power of the air." This would explain, in part why they wish to not DRIVE a vehicle with air filled tires or listen to the radio. I never asked why they could ride in one.








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Red/Green
Posted 12/13/2008 09:52 (#533068 - in reply to #533052)
Subject: Re: Amish Forklift/Tractors


Elizabethtown,KY
The Amish here only use horses for field work, but do use Honda engines on table saws, etc. They have a couple of Diesel powered saw mills as well. They built a barn for me 10 years ago, I dug the post holes and they did everything else by hand, only used a table saw with a Honda engine on it. Four boys built a 56' x 84' tobacco/machinery storage barn in 13 working days, boy who ran the crew was 22 years old, he was a newlywed then, saw him 4 years later and he had 4 kids, last I heard he had 6 kids and had moved to MN.
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Grow
Posted 12/13/2008 14:30 (#533300 - in reply to #533052)
Subject: Re: Amish Forklift/Tractors


Do the Amish have a code book to keep them on the straight and narrow?
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Mark (EC,IN)
Posted 12/13/2008 18:03 (#533450 - in reply to #533300)
Subject: Yep



Schlegel Farms, Hagerstown Indiana
Called the Bible.

........................................Mark
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swwi
Posted 12/13/2008 09:54 (#533072 - in reply to #532967)
Subject: Re: Amish Forklift/Tractors


I get a kick out of the Amish kids around here, they are chatting on cell phones while driving a buggy. But never in sight of an Elder. I had a 16 year old kid help me with chores a few years back and he "enlightned" me as to what they know about computers and the like. He knew the basics on how to run one. A radio is quite common for them to rig up in the shop or barn. They are not as "clueless" as one might think.
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Jim ec IN
Posted 12/13/2008 09:56 (#533076 - in reply to #532967)
Subject: Re: Amish Forklift/Tractors


Markleville, Indiana
Had an amish crew build my barn. There were 7 amish and their driver that drove from Berne. They had a like new Bobcat 185 with many attachments and used my electricity to run their modern electric power tools. Suprised me to see them all smoking cigarettes and hearing them swear frequently. I was very happy with their work though!

Jim
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Thud
Posted 12/13/2008 11:47 (#533172 - in reply to #532967)
Subject: Re: Amish Forklift/Tractors


Essex County, extreme SW Ontario,
SCKANSAS, you aint kidding about the old order Mennonites in Ontario... Theres ALOT of them around here, the older generation tend to be hard working law abiding citizens. The second generation, well thats another story. They have learned to use the system to their advantage, thats all I'm saying.
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Gerald J.
Posted 12/13/2008 14:02 (#533281 - in reply to #532938)
Subject: Re: Amish Forklift/Tractors



Manager of an REC in an Amish characterized them as just cheap. Those were happy to ride in your car or use your phone, but wouldn't own one.

Gerald J.
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youngtimer
Posted 12/13/2008 12:34 (#533211 - in reply to #532721)
Subject: I wish there were more Amish


I like them,the ones here in the Ky/Tn. area seem to be neat and clean and hard workers with nice houses and modern farms.The ones here have not been here all that long so O guess they would have newer looking houses etc.

They are clean living people and are less likily to comit any crimes. There are exceptions of course.
The ones here are more modern then me lol,they have trash colected by a contractor,heck even I don't have that. They cause a lot less stress on the enviorment.

Think about it,you marry an Amish wife bring here home tell her she has to us an OUTHOUSE and she doesn't talk back to you LOL.
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Jerry NCMO
Posted 12/13/2008 19:57 (#533546 - in reply to #532721)
Subject: RE: Amish Forklift/Tractors


An Amish fellow who rebuilds & trades tracked equipment explained the steel wheels to us this way. They believe that a person who runs up and down the roads to continually expand his operation falls into the sin of greed and the steel wheels limit the amount of road travel a person will be tempted to do.
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