Updates tagged with socnets on Hacker Poesy!
bobjonkman: bobjonkman favorited something by lnxw48a1: https://500ish.com/mastodon-brought-a-protocol-to-a-product-fight-ba9fda767c6a #Medium link; don't be surprised if it does weird things before showing you the article. "Mastodon brought a protocol to a product fight" > Yes, yes, the network is under immense strain as people flee the Elon strain infecting Twitter. But come on, there are folks who really believe this is going to replace, or even stand alongside Twitter, as a massively scaled social network? I call bullshit. While it’s impressive that millions of users have apparently given Mastodon a try, the product is far too slapdash and clunky to keep folks engaged. A lump of coal. No, it isn't meant to be a #Twitter replacement. Keep your Twitter account until you no longer want it--or the company closes and the site shuts down--you can use Mastodon alongside Twitter. And the #Fediverse networks are much more than just #Mastodon. Don't think you have experienced the network and all it has to offer if all you've done is briefly tried to use Mastodon, because you haven't experienced it. > I’ve somehow avoided signing up for the service up until now. Largely because signing up was and is so comically obtuse — pick your server everyone, hope you choose wisely! Have you not used e-mail? It works the same way. You pick a server, such as Gmail or Outlook dot com, and sign up. Please tell me you realize that the people you communicate with are not all on the same e-mail service that you use. > But, but, it’s not a product, it’s a protocol. Yeah, that’s a nice thing to say. And to believe in. But I truly believe the ship has sadly sailed for such idealism in this space. Jack Dorsey can talk about how this should have been what Twitter was from the get go until he’s bluesky in the face. It’s just not going to happen. And he’s more to blame for that than most everyone else. As is he for the Elon element of this current equation. But that’s a different story. Okay, so how about this story: Twitter has only been profitable two or three years of its entire history. Since it started, it has existed by burning through investors' funds. Eventually, with or without Elon Musk's ownership, that runs out. Without such funding, their corporate-centralized ( #corpocentric ) model cannot exist very long. And same for their centralized competitors, such as Post.news, Gab, Parler, and so on. What is left is either #federated or #peer-to-peer approaches, where no single entity is responsible for funding and managing the entire network. So whether it is the #Fediverse ( with #ActivityPub and #OStatus and their successors ) & the Federation ( with #Diaspora ) or #Bluesky, or #Twister, or #NOSTR, the eventual future of #socnets is #decentralized, if not entirely peer-to-peer unless a national government takes over Facebook and Twitter in order to provide effectively unlimited resources. It is the protocol that makes it possible for thousands or millions of instances to displace and replace one big centralized instance. 1/2
bobjonkman's status on Thursday, 05-Jan-2023 15:30:59 EST
bobjonkman favorited something by lnxw48a1: https://500ish.com/mastodon-brought-a-protocol-to-a-product-fight-ba9fda767c6a #Medium link; don't be surprised if it does weird things before showing you the article. "Mastodon brought a protocol to a product fight" > Yes, yes, the network is under immense strain as people flee the Elon strain infecting Twitter. But come on, there are folks who really believe this is going to replace, or even stand alongside Twitter, as a massively scaled social network? I call bullshit. While it’s impressive that millions of users have apparently given Mastodon a try, the product is far too slapdash and clunky to keep folks engaged. A lump of coal. No, it isn't meant to be a #Twitter replacement. Keep your Twitter account until you no longer want it--or the company closes and the site shuts down--you can use Mastodon alongside Twitter. And the #Fediverse networks are much more than just #Mastodon. Don't think you have experienced the network and all it has to offer if all you've done is briefly tried to use Mastodon, because you haven't experienced it. > I’ve somehow avoided signing up for the service up until now. Largely because signing up was and is so comically obtuse — pick your server everyone, hope you choose wisely! Have you not used e-mail? It works the same way. You pick a server, such as Gmail or Outlook dot com, and sign up. Please tell me you realize that the people you communicate with are not all on the same e-mail service that you use. > But, but, it’s not a product, it’s a protocol. Yeah, that’s a nice thing to say. And to believe in. But I truly believe the ship has sadly sailed for such idealism in this space. Jack Dorsey can talk about how this should have been what Twitter was from the get go until he’s bluesky in the face. It’s just not going to happen. And he’s more to blame for that than most everyone else. As is he for the Elon element of this current equation. But that’s a different story. Okay, so how about this story: Twitter has only been profitable two or three years of its entire history. Since it started, it has existed by burning through investors' funds. Eventually, with or without Elon Musk's ownership, that runs out. Without such funding, their corporate-centralized ( #corpocentric ) model cannot exist very long. And same for their centralized competitors, such as Post.news, Gab, Parler, and so on. What is left is either #federated or #peer-to-peer approaches, where no single entity is responsible for funding and managing the entire network. So whether it is the #Fediverse ( with #ActivityPub and #OStatus and their successors ) & the Federation ( with #Diaspora ) or #Bluesky, or #Twister, or #NOSTR, the eventual future of #socnets is #decentralized, if not entirely peer-to-peer unless a national government takes over Facebook and Twitter in order to provide effectively unlimited resources. It is the protocol that makes it possible for thousands or millions of instances to displace and replace one big centralized instance. 1/2
bobjonkman: RT @lnxw48a1 http://status.hackerposse.com/url/24031 #Medium link; don't be surprised if it does weird things before showing you the article. "Mastodon brought a protocol to a product fight" > Yes, yes, the network is under immense strain as people flee the Elon strain infecting Twitter. But come on, there are folks who really believe this is going to replace, or even stand a https://gs.jonkman.ca/notice/1107876
bobjonkman's status on Thursday, 05-Jan-2023 15:30:53 EST
RT @lnxw48a1 http://status.hackerposse.com/url/24031 #Medium link; don't be surprised if it does weird things before showing you the article. "Mastodon brought a protocol to a product fight" > Yes, yes, the network is under immense strain as people flee the Elon strain infecting Twitter. But come on, there are folks who really believe this is going to replace, or even stand a…
lnxw48a1: http://status.hackerposse.com/url/24031 #Medium link; don't be surprised if it does weird things before showing you the article. "Mastodon brought a protocol to a product fight" > Yes, yes, the network is under immense strain as people flee the Elon strain infecting Twitter. But come on, there are folks who really believe this is going to replace, or even stand alongside Twitt https://nu.federati.net/notice/3418994
lnxw48a1's status on Wednesday, 28-Dec-2022 21:20:57 EST
http://status.hackerposse.com/url/24031 #Medium link; don't be surprised if it does weird things before showing you the article. "Mastodon brought a protocol to a product fight" > Yes, yes, the network is under immense strain as people flee the Elon strain infecting Twitter. But come on, there are folks who really believe this is going to replace, or even stand alongside Twitt…
lnxw48a1: Libervia / Salut a Toi project is working on a protocol bridge, so that !xmpp based #socnets and #ActivityPub + #HTTP based social networks can interact. See https://goffi.org/_ap/item/goffi%40goffi.org/libervia-progress-note-2022-w45-MTdL
lnxw48a1's status on Sunday, 27-Nov-2022 12:55:07 EST
Libervia / Salut a Toi project is working on a protocol bridge, so that !xmpp based #socnets and #ActivityPub + #HTTP based social networks can interact. See https://goffi.org/_ap/item/goffi%40goffi.org/libervia-progress-note-2022-w45-MTdL
bobjonkman: bobjonkman favorited something by lnxw48a1: @vegos I agree. To most organizations, their primary concern is reach. So they congregate on big #corpocentric #socnets, even when the central corporation running things is actively hostile to their point of view. Then they're butthurt when their accounts are shadowbanned. Years ago, I tried to persuade some local Black churches and ethic-focused organizations to join !GNUsocial and #Diaspora, but was unsuccessful. I think they all joined #Facebook, where their posts are hidden by the algorithms.
bobjonkman's status on Tuesday, 24-Nov-2020 18:48:53 EST
bobjonkman favorited something by lnxw48a1: @vegos I agree. To most organizations, their primary concern is reach. So they congregate on big #corpocentric #socnets, even when the central corporation running things is actively hostile to their point of view. Then they're butthurt when their accounts are shadowbanned. Years ago, I tried to persuade some local Black churches and ethic-focused organizations to join !GNUsocial and #Diaspora, but was unsuccessful. I think they all joined #Facebook, where their posts are hidden by the algorithms.
bobjonkman: RT @lnxw48a1 @vegos I agree. To most organizations, their primary concern is reach. So they congregate on big #corpocentric #socnets, even when the central corporation running things is actively hostile to their point of view. Then they're butthurt when their accounts are shadowbanned. Years ago, I tried to persuade some local Black churches and ethic-focused organizations to j https://gs.jonkman.ca/notice/1049711
bobjonkman's status on Tuesday, 24-Nov-2020 18:48:02 EST
RT @lnxw48a1 @vegos I agree. To most organizations, their primary concern is reach. So they congregate on big #corpocentric #socnets, even when the central corporation running things is actively hostile to their point of view. Then they're butthurt when their accounts are shadowbanned. Years ago, I tried to persuade some local Black churches and ethic-focused organizations to j…
lnxw48a1: @vegos I agree. To most organizations, their primary concern is reach. So they congregate on big #corpocentric #socnets, even when the central corporation running things is actively hostile to their point of view. Then they're butthurt when their accounts are shadowbanned. Years ago, I tried to persuade some local Black churches and ethic-focused organizations to join !GNUsocia https://nu.federati.net/notice/3348756
lnxw48a1's status on Tuesday, 24-Nov-2020 10:48:57 EST
@vegos I agree. To most organizations, their primary concern is reach. So they congregate on big #corpocentric #socnets, even when the central corporation running things is actively hostile to their point of view. Then they're butthurt when their accounts are shadowbanned. Years ago, I tried to persuade some local Black churches and ethic-focused organizations to join !GNUsocia…
lnxw48a1: I may back up, remove and reinstall #Manyverse before I give up on it. A lot of the people I used to see are overly political. I don’t miss that, but I’m interested—or at least I was—in the potential to enable normal (not politically obsessed) people to connect outside of #corpocentric #socnets.
lnxw48a1's status on Monday, 19-Oct-2020 00:25:38 EDT
I may back up, remove and reinstall #Manyverse before I give up on it. A lot of the people I used to see are overly political. I don’t miss that, but I’m interested—or at least I was—in the potential to enable normal (not politically obsessed) people to connect outside of #corpocentric #socnets.
lnxw48a1: https://toot.cafe/@nolan/104580682382486704 People discussing problems of #corpocentric #socnets without considering the various decentralized networks that try to avoid some of those problems.
lnxw48a1's status on Sunday, 26-Jul-2020 14:17:05 EDT
https://toot.cafe/@nolan/104580682382486704 People discussing problems of #corpocentric #socnets without considering the various decentralized networks that try to avoid some of those problems.
lnxw48a1: A year or two old, but relevant to the news of today. https://nu.federati.net/url/269983 [www techdirt com] #SCOTUS #1st_Amendment #Public_Access #SocNets
lnxw48a1's status on Thursday, 28-May-2020 01:47:19 EDT
A year or two old, but relevant to the news of today. <a href="https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20190617/16001942415/supreme-court-signals-loud-clear-that-social-media-sites-are-not-public-forums-that-have-to-allow-all-speech.shtml" title="https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20190617/16001942415/supreme-court-signals-loud-clear-that-social-media-sites-are-not-public-forums-that-have-to-allow-all-speech.shtml" rel="nofollow external noreferrer" class="attachment">https://nu.federati.net/url/269983 [www techdirt com] #SCOTUS #1st_Amendment #Public_Access #SocNets
lnxw48: @cphuntington97 You're probably at least partly right. I'd add this: people who recognize that centralization is one of the chief reasons for the things they like least about Twitter and Facebook will eventually start looking for decentralized / peer-to-peer / self-hosted alternatives. A lot of those who flee #corpocentric networks without this recognition soon return to capt https://fresh.federati.net/notice/561649
lnxw48's status on Sunday, 20-Nov-2016 21:21:08 EST
@cphuntington97 You're probably at least partly right. I'd add this: people who recognize that centralization is one of the chief reasons for the things they like least about Twitter and Facebook will eventually start looking for decentralized / peer-to-peer / self-hosted alternatives. A lot of those who flee #corpocentric networks without this recognition soon return to capt…
erkanyilmaz: RT @lnxw48 I’d look more favorably on the #MediaGoblin fundraiser if they were willing to #federate with multiple #socnets.
erkanyilmaz's status on Thursday, 27-Feb-2014 07:07:54 EST
RT @lnxw48 I’d look more favorably on the #MediaGoblin fundraiser if they were willing to #federate with multiple #socnets.
lnxw48: I’d look more favorably on the #MediaGoblin fundraiser if they were willing to #federate with multiple #socnets.
lnxw48's status on Wednesday, 26-Feb-2014 19:29:11 EST
I’d look more favorably on the #MediaGoblin fundraiser if they were willing to #federate with multiple #socnets.