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bobjonkman: bobjonkman favorited something by lnxw48a1: https://500ish.com/mastodon-brought-a-protocol-to-a-product-fight-ba9fda767c6a #Medium link; don't be surprised if it does weird things before showing you the article. "Mastodon brought a protocol to a product fight" > Yes, yes, the network is under immense strain as people flee the Elon strain infecting Twitter. But come on, there are folks who really believe this is going to replace, or even stand alongside Twitter, as a massively scaled social network? I call bullshit. While it’s impressive that millions of users have apparently given Mastodon a try, the product is far too slapdash and clunky to keep folks engaged. A lump of coal. No, it isn't meant to be a #Twitter replacement. Keep your Twitter account until you no longer want it--or the company closes and the site shuts down--you can use Mastodon alongside Twitter. And the #Fediverse networks are much more than just #Mastodon. Don't think you have experienced the network and all it has to offer if all you've done is briefly tried to use Mastodon, because you haven't experienced it. > I’ve somehow avoided signing up for the service up until now. Largely because signing up was and is so comically obtuse — pick your server everyone, hope you choose wisely! Have you not used e-mail? It works the same way. You pick a server, such as Gmail or Outlook dot com, and sign up. Please tell me you realize that the people you communicate with are not all on the same e-mail service that you use. > But, but, it’s not a product, it’s a protocol. Yeah, that’s a nice thing to say. And to believe in. But I truly believe the ship has sadly sailed for such idealism in this space. Jack Dorsey can talk about how this should have been what Twitter was from the get go until he’s bluesky in the face. It’s just not going to happen. And he’s more to blame for that than most everyone else. As is he for the Elon element of this current equation. But that’s a different story. Okay, so how about this story: Twitter has only been profitable two or three years of its entire history. Since it started, it has existed by burning through investors' funds. Eventually, with or without Elon Musk's ownership, that runs out. Without such funding, their corporate-centralized ( #corpocentric ) model cannot exist very long. And same for their centralized competitors, such as Post.news, Gab, Parler, and so on. What is left is either #federated or #peer-to-peer approaches, where no single entity is responsible for funding and managing the entire network. So whether it is the #Fediverse ( with #ActivityPub and #OStatus and their successors ) & the Federation ( with #Diaspora ) or #Bluesky, or #Twister, or #NOSTR, the eventual future of #socnets is #decentralized, if not entirely peer-to-peer unless a national government takes over Facebook and Twitter in order to provide effectively unlimited resources. It is the protocol that makes it possible for thousands or millions of instances to displace and replace one big centralized instance. 1/2
bobjonkman's status on Thursday, 05-Jan-2023 15:30:59 EST
bobjonkman favorited something by lnxw48a1: https://500ish.com/mastodon-brought-a-protocol-to-a-product-fight-ba9fda767c6a #Medium link; don't be surprised if it does weird things before showing you the article. "Mastodon brought a protocol to a product fight" > Yes, yes, the network is under immense strain as people flee the Elon strain infecting Twitter. But come on, there are folks who really believe this is going to replace, or even stand alongside Twitter, as a massively scaled social network? I call bullshit. While it’s impressive that millions of users have apparently given Mastodon a try, the product is far too slapdash and clunky to keep folks engaged. A lump of coal. No, it isn't meant to be a #Twitter replacement. Keep your Twitter account until you no longer want it--or the company closes and the site shuts down--you can use Mastodon alongside Twitter. And the #Fediverse networks are much more than just #Mastodon. Don't think you have experienced the network and all it has to offer if all you've done is briefly tried to use Mastodon, because you haven't experienced it. > I’ve somehow avoided signing up for the service up until now. Largely because signing up was and is so comically obtuse — pick your server everyone, hope you choose wisely! Have you not used e-mail? It works the same way. You pick a server, such as Gmail or Outlook dot com, and sign up. Please tell me you realize that the people you communicate with are not all on the same e-mail service that you use. > But, but, it’s not a product, it’s a protocol. Yeah, that’s a nice thing to say. And to believe in. But I truly believe the ship has sadly sailed for such idealism in this space. Jack Dorsey can talk about how this should have been what Twitter was from the get go until he’s bluesky in the face. It’s just not going to happen. And he’s more to blame for that than most everyone else. As is he for the Elon element of this current equation. But that’s a different story. Okay, so how about this story: Twitter has only been profitable two or three years of its entire history. Since it started, it has existed by burning through investors' funds. Eventually, with or without Elon Musk's ownership, that runs out. Without such funding, their corporate-centralized ( #corpocentric ) model cannot exist very long. And same for their centralized competitors, such as Post.news, Gab, Parler, and so on. What is left is either #federated or #peer-to-peer approaches, where no single entity is responsible for funding and managing the entire network. So whether it is the #Fediverse ( with #ActivityPub and #OStatus and their successors ) & the Federation ( with #Diaspora ) or #Bluesky, or #Twister, or #NOSTR, the eventual future of #socnets is #decentralized, if not entirely peer-to-peer unless a national government takes over Facebook and Twitter in order to provide effectively unlimited resources. It is the protocol that makes it possible for thousands or millions of instances to displace and replace one big centralized instance. 1/2
bobjonkman: RT @lnxw48a1 http://status.hackerposse.com/url/24031 #Medium link; don't be surprised if it does weird things before showing you the article. "Mastodon brought a protocol to a product fight" > Yes, yes, the network is under immense strain as people flee the Elon strain infecting Twitter. But come on, there are folks who really believe this is going to replace, or even stand a https://gs.jonkman.ca/notice/1107876
bobjonkman's status on Thursday, 05-Jan-2023 15:30:53 EST
RT @lnxw48a1 http://status.hackerposse.com/url/24031 #Medium link; don't be surprised if it does weird things before showing you the article. "Mastodon brought a protocol to a product fight" > Yes, yes, the network is under immense strain as people flee the Elon strain infecting Twitter. But come on, there are folks who really believe this is going to replace, or even stand a…
lnxw48a1: http://status.hackerposse.com/url/24031 #Medium link; don't be surprised if it does weird things before showing you the article. "Mastodon brought a protocol to a product fight" > Yes, yes, the network is under immense strain as people flee the Elon strain infecting Twitter. But come on, there are folks who really believe this is going to replace, or even stand alongside Twitt https://nu.federati.net/notice/3418994
lnxw48a1's status on Wednesday, 28-Dec-2022 21:20:57 EST
http://status.hackerposse.com/url/24031 #Medium link; don't be surprised if it does weird things before showing you the article. "Mastodon brought a protocol to a product fight" > Yes, yes, the network is under immense strain as people flee the Elon strain infecting Twitter. But come on, there are folks who really believe this is going to replace, or even stand alongside Twitt…
musicman: RT @lnxw48a1 Here's a good example and explanation of why you want ti move as much of your online life as possible away from #Google (and similar #corpocentric platforms). https://nu.federati.net/url/279741 [arstechnica com]
musicman's status on Monday, 08-Feb-2021 16:29:18 EST
RT @lnxw48a1 Here's a good example and explanation of why you want ti move as much of your online life as possible away from #Google (and similar #corpocentric platforms). https://nu.federati.net/url/279741 [arstechnica com]
lnxw48a1: Here's a good example and explanation of why you want ti move as much of your online life as possible away from #Google (and similar #corpocentric platforms). https://nu.federati.net/url/279741 [arstechnica com]
lnxw48a1's status on Monday, 08-Feb-2021 14:27:30 EST
Here's a good example and explanation of why you want ti move as much of your online life as possible away from #Google (and similar #corpocentric platforms). https://nu.federati.net/url/279741 [arstechnica com]
rozzin: rozzin favorited something by lnxw48a1: @sim In other words, we often intentionally try to look like the #corpocentric networks and hide the things that make this one different. Then we are caught off-guard when users (especially new users, but sometimes people who have been around for a year or two) show ignorance about the fundamental differences inherent a #federated network. We need to make it clear, from the beg…
rozzin's status on Monday, 14-Dec-2020 12:48:59 EST
rozzin favorited something by lnxw48a1: @sim In other words, we often intentionally try to look like the #corpocentric networks and hide the things that make this one different. Then we are caught off-guard when users (especially new users, but sometimes people who have been around for a year or two) show ignorance about the fundamental differences inherent a #federated network. We need to make it clear, from the beg…
bobjonkman: bobjonkman favorited something by lnxw48a1: @vegos I agree. To most organizations, their primary concern is reach. So they congregate on big #corpocentric #socnets, even when the central corporation running things is actively hostile to their point of view. Then they're butthurt when their accounts are shadowbanned. Years ago, I tried to persuade some local Black churches and ethic-focused organizations to join !GNUsocial and #Diaspora, but was unsuccessful. I think they all joined #Facebook, where their posts are hidden by the algorithms.
bobjonkman's status on Tuesday, 24-Nov-2020 18:48:53 EST
bobjonkman favorited something by lnxw48a1: @vegos I agree. To most organizations, their primary concern is reach. So they congregate on big #corpocentric #socnets, even when the central corporation running things is actively hostile to their point of view. Then they're butthurt when their accounts are shadowbanned. Years ago, I tried to persuade some local Black churches and ethic-focused organizations to join !GNUsocial and #Diaspora, but was unsuccessful. I think they all joined #Facebook, where their posts are hidden by the algorithms.
bobjonkman: RT @lnxw48a1 @vegos I agree. To most organizations, their primary concern is reach. So they congregate on big #corpocentric #socnets, even when the central corporation running things is actively hostile to their point of view. Then they're butthurt when their accounts are shadowbanned. Years ago, I tried to persuade some local Black churches and ethic-focused organizations to j https://gs.jonkman.ca/notice/1049711
bobjonkman's status on Tuesday, 24-Nov-2020 18:48:02 EST
RT @lnxw48a1 @vegos I agree. To most organizations, their primary concern is reach. So they congregate on big #corpocentric #socnets, even when the central corporation running things is actively hostile to their point of view. Then they're butthurt when their accounts are shadowbanned. Years ago, I tried to persuade some local Black churches and ethic-focused organizations to j…
lnxw48a1: @vegos I agree. To most organizations, their primary concern is reach. So they congregate on big #corpocentric #socnets, even when the central corporation running things is actively hostile to their point of view. Then they're butthurt when their accounts are shadowbanned. Years ago, I tried to persuade some local Black churches and ethic-focused organizations to join !GNUsocia https://nu.federati.net/notice/3348756
lnxw48a1's status on Tuesday, 24-Nov-2020 10:48:57 EST
@vegos I agree. To most organizations, their primary concern is reach. So they congregate on big #corpocentric #socnets, even when the central corporation running things is actively hostile to their point of view. Then they're butthurt when their accounts are shadowbanned. Years ago, I tried to persuade some local Black churches and ethic-focused organizations to join !GNUsocia…
lnxw48a1: I may back up, remove and reinstall #Manyverse before I give up on it. A lot of the people I used to see are overly political. I don’t miss that, but I’m interested—or at least I was—in the potential to enable normal (not politically obsessed) people to connect outside of #corpocentric #socnets.
lnxw48a1's status on Monday, 19-Oct-2020 00:25:38 EDT
I may back up, remove and reinstall #Manyverse before I give up on it. A lot of the people I used to see are overly political. I don’t miss that, but I’m interested—or at least I was—in the potential to enable normal (not politically obsessed) people to connect outside of #corpocentric #socnets.
lnxw48a1: He's talking about things that decentralized networks (and the people and software projects involved in them) can do to be better (more attractive to users) than #corpocentric networks. Naturally, he's focused on the #ActivityPub subset of the #Fediverse, but some of this applies to other decentralized networks as well.
lnxw48a1's status on Tuesday, 29-Sep-2020 01:30:44 EDT
He's talking about things that decentralized networks (and the people and software projects involved in them) can do to be better (more attractive to users) than #corpocentric networks. Naturally, he's focused on the #ActivityPub subset of the #Fediverse, but some of this applies to other decentralized networks as well.
lnxw48a1: https://toot.cafe/@nolan/104580682382486704 People discussing problems of #corpocentric #socnets without considering the various decentralized networks that try to avoid some of those problems.
lnxw48a1's status on Sunday, 26-Jul-2020 14:17:05 EDT
https://toot.cafe/@nolan/104580682382486704 People discussing problems of #corpocentric #socnets without considering the various decentralized networks that try to avoid some of those problems.
lnxw48a1: An article I recently read talked about the copyright battles of the late 1990s as instructive to what #decentralized, #federated and #peer-to-peer networks will face if and when we become threatening to the big #corpocentric networks. I think it is something we need to think about. Unfortunately, some parts of the #Fediverse (primarily, but not exclusively #Mastodon) have mar https://nu.federati.net/notice/3325338
lnxw48a1's status on Thursday, 23-Jul-2020 14:43:40 EDT
An article I recently read talked about the copyright battles of the late 1990s as instructive to what #decentralized, #federated and #peer-to-peer networks will face if and when we become threatening to the big #corpocentric networks. I think it is something we need to think about. Unfortunately, some parts of the #Fediverse (primarily, but not exclusively #Mastodon) have mar…
lnxw48a1: https://nu.federati.net/url/272873 [www theverge com] . #Corpocentric #socnet #Twitter appears to have been cracked.
lnxw48a1's status on Wednesday, 15-Jul-2020 19:11:51 EDT
https://nu.federati.net/url/272873 [www theverge com] . #Corpocentric #socnet #Twitter appears to have been cracked.
lnxw48a1: “Turn on Play Protect” None for me, thank you. I see the kinds of garbage that gets into the #Google #Play_Store. I’d rather rely on a few motivated #F-Droid maintainers to inspect and package the software on my devices than your auto-scan software. (BTW, let me emphasize again that #de-google is NOT ENOUGH. #DecentraLife ... I want to remove not just Google from my life, but all #corpocentric gatekeepers.)
lnxw48a1's status on Saturday, 30-May-2020 16:41:11 EDT
“Turn on Play Protect” None for me, thank you. I see the kinds of garbage that gets into the #Google #Play_Store. I’d rather rely on a few motivated #F-Droid maintainers to inspect and package the software on my devices than your auto-scan software. (BTW, let me emphasize again that #de-google is NOT ENOUGH. #DecentraLife ... I want to remove not just Google from my life, but all #corpocentric gatekeepers.)
lnxw48a1: Signage change at the #coin_laundry. More crowded today. Did someone post #NoCrowdTuesdays on one of the #corpocentric socnets? https://nu.federati.net/attachment/267966
lnxw48a1's status on Tuesday, 21-Apr-2020 15:26:41 EDT
Signage change at the #coin_laundry. More crowded today. Did someone post #NoCrowdTuesdays on one of the #corpocentric socnets? https://nu.federati.net/attachment/267966
rozzin: rozzin favorited something by lnxw48a1: RE: The article linked in https://status.hackerposse.com/url/19362 ( https://status.hackerposse.com/url/19363 ) I don't think that having a different kind of discovery from #corpocentric networks means that the #Fediverse's discovery mechanisms are wrong. Having been a #Twitter user for over a decade, they don't have the greatest discovery mechanisms either. They try to fill that…
rozzin's status on Sunday, 12-Jan-2020 13:35:25 EST
rozzin favorited something by lnxw48a1: RE: The article linked in https://status.hackerposse.com/url/19362 ( https://status.hackerposse.com/url/19363 ) I don't think that having a different kind of discovery from #corpocentric networks means that the #Fediverse's discovery mechanisms are wrong. Having been a #Twitter user for over a decade, they don't have the greatest discovery mechanisms either. They try to fill that…
rozzin: rozzin favorited something by lnxw48a1: @moonman And the content creators are on Twitter and other #corpocentric socnets because of audience size, so that's not likely to change.
rozzin's status on Friday, 10-Jan-2020 23:16:08 EST
rozzin favorited something by lnxw48a1: @moonman And the content creators are on Twitter and other #corpocentric socnets because of audience size, so that's not likely to change.
lnxw48a1: @sim In other words, we often intentionally try to look like the #corpocentric networks and hide the things that make this one different. Then we are caught off-guard when users (especially new users, but sometimes people who have been around for a year or two) show ignorance about the fundamental differences inherent a #federated network. We need to make it clear, from the beg https://nu.federati.net/notice/3229878
lnxw48a1's status on Friday, 10-Jan-2020 14:23:20 EST
@sim In other words, we often intentionally try to look like the #corpocentric networks and hide the things that make this one different. Then we are caught off-guard when users (especially new users, but sometimes people who have been around for a year or two) show ignorance about the fundamental differences inherent a #federated network. We need to make it clear, from the beg…
lnxw48a1: http://status.hackerposse.com/url/19580 This is worth a read. This person has spent some time thinking about these issues. I'm not saying his/her conclusions are "the right" conclusions or that he/she has discovered all the potential issues. But when we discuss these topics, we need to have a (shared) starting point, where everyone understands what particular terms mean. #Fede https://nu.federati.net/notice/3219363
lnxw48a1's status on Wednesday, 25-Dec-2019 21:42:55 EST
http://status.hackerposse.com/url/19580 This is worth a read. This person has spent some time thinking about these issues. I'm not saying his/her conclusions are "the right" conclusions or that he/she has discovered all the potential issues. But when we discuss these topics, we need to have a (shared) starting point, where everyone understands what particular terms mean. #Fede…
lnxw48a1: @tealturtle I knew of some people from West Africa (but none from Southern or Central Africa) years ago, before the #bifurcation. . I think they were #lost to the #corpocentric networks when Identica switched to #Pump.io and many #StatusNet instances closed.
lnxw48a1's status on Wednesday, 27-Nov-2019 16:48:35 EST
@tealturtle I knew of some people from West Africa (but none from Southern or Central Africa) years ago, before the #bifurcation. . I think they were #lost to the #corpocentric networks when Identica switched to #Pump.io and many #StatusNet instances closed.
lnxw48a1: RE: The article linked in http://status.hackerposse.com/url/19362 ( http://status.hackerposse.com/url/19363 ) I don't think that having a different kind of discovery from #corpocentric networks means that the #Fediverse's discovery mechanisms are wrong. Having been a #Twitter user for over a decade, they don't have the greatest discovery mechanisms either. They try to fill that https://nu.federati.net/notice/3188284
lnxw48a1's status on Wednesday, 20-Nov-2019 14:40:20 EST
RE: The article linked in http://status.hackerposse.com/url/19362 ( http://status.hackerposse.com/url/19363 ) I don't think that having a different kind of discovery from #corpocentric networks means that the #Fediverse's discovery mechanisms are wrong. Having been a #Twitter user for over a decade, they don't have the greatest discovery mechanisms either. They try to fill that…
lnxw48a1: @guizzy I understand and agree. I also think that if you have more than 10-20 active users, you should probably ask members of the community to contribute if they can ... financially, moderation-wise, admin tasks, customizing the design and function of the site, and so on. We do our users no favor by reinforcing that sites and servers are provided without any cost. That's what https://nu.federati.net/notice/3181630
lnxw48a1's status on Monday, 11-Nov-2019 15:23:13 EST
@guizzy I understand and agree. I also think that if you have more than 10-20 active users, you should probably ask members of the community to contribute if they can ... financially, moderation-wise, admin tasks, customizing the design and function of the site, and so on. We do our users no favor by reinforcing that sites and servers are provided without any cost. That's what…
lnxw48a1: @moonman And the content creators are on Twitter and other #corpocentric socnets because of audience size, so that's not likely to change.
lnxw48a1's status on Sunday, 03-Nov-2019 10:57:06 EST
@moonman And the content creators are on Twitter and other #corpocentric socnets because of audience size, so that's not likely to change.
lnxw48: @cphuntington97 You're probably at least partly right. I'd add this: people who recognize that centralization is one of the chief reasons for the things they like least about Twitter and Facebook will eventually start looking for decentralized / peer-to-peer / self-hosted alternatives. A lot of those who flee #corpocentric networks without this recognition soon return to capt https://fresh.federati.net/notice/561649
lnxw48's status on Sunday, 20-Nov-2016 21:21:08 EST
@cphuntington97 You're probably at least partly right. I'd add this: people who recognize that centralization is one of the chief reasons for the things they like least about Twitter and Facebook will eventually start looking for decentralized / peer-to-peer / self-hosted alternatives. A lot of those who flee #corpocentric networks without this recognition soon return to capt…
lnxw48: Another example of why one should not let #corpocentric sites be the main locus of one's postings. Best to !selfhost (or at least use #federated sites) and to use centralized sites only to link to your content posted elsewhere. http://url.federati.net/hXUrX
lnxw48's status on Wednesday, 10-Aug-2016 19:18:29 EDT
Another example of why one should not let #corpocentric sites be the main locus of one's postings. Best to !selfhost (or at least use #federated sites) and to use centralized sites only to link to your content posted elsewhere. http://url.federati.net/hXUrX
jcaktiv: jcaktiv favorited something by lnxw48: Reading social-discuss message today. https://quitter.se/url/1220571 Using !gnusocial as the comments section for static blogs (instead of #corpocentric add-ins like #Disqus)
jcaktiv's status on Sunday, 03-Jan-2016 11:50:43 EST
jcaktiv favorited something by lnxw48: Reading social-discuss message today. https://quitter.se/url/1220571 Using !gnusocial as the comments section for static blogs (instead of #corpocentric add-ins like #Disqus)
ghostdancer: ghostdancer favorited something by lnxw48: Reading social-discuss message today. http://qttr.at/12jo Using !gnusocial as the comments section for static blogs (instead of #corpocentric add-ins like #Disqus)
ghostdancer's status on Sunday, 03-Jan-2016 11:46:47 EST
ghostdancer favorited something by lnxw48: Reading social-discuss message today. http://qttr.at/12jo Using !gnusocial as the comments section for static blogs (instead of #corpocentric add-ins like #Disqus)
mmn: RT @lnxw48 Reading social-discuss message today. http://url.federati.net/D-6Si Using !gnusocial as the comments section for static blogs (instead of #corpocentric add-ins like #Disqus)
mmn's status on Sunday, 03-Jan-2016 11:28:10 EST
RT @lnxw48 Reading social-discuss message today. http://url.federati.net/D-6Si Using !gnusocial as the comments section for static blogs (instead of #corpocentric add-ins like #Disqus)
nicolasmaia: nicolasmaia favorited something by lnxw48: Reading social-discuss message today. https://quitter.se/url/1220571 Using !gnusocial as the comments section for static blogs (instead of #corpocentric add-ins like #Disqus)
nicolasmaia's status on Sunday, 03-Jan-2016 10:56:28 EST
nicolasmaia favorited something by lnxw48: Reading social-discuss message today. https://quitter.se/url/1220571 Using !gnusocial as the comments section for static blogs (instead of #corpocentric add-ins like #Disqus)
lnxw48: Reading social-discuss message today. http://url.federati.net/D-6Si Using !gnusocial as the comments section for static blogs (instead of #corpocentric add-ins like #Disqus)
lnxw48's status on Sunday, 03-Jan-2016 10:38:04 EST
Reading social-discuss message today. http://url.federati.net/D-6Si Using !gnusocial as the comments section for static blogs (instead of #corpocentric add-ins like #Disqus)